Chess Pro Explains How to Spot Cheaters (ft. GothamChess)

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Title	:	Chess Pro Explains How to Spot Cheaters (ft. GothamChess) \| WIRED
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Comment from : GothamChess

He says unlikely when I met a cheater
Comment from : Aarav Nair

idk why you would ever cheat at chess online anyway it’s the same thing as cheating in video games, if you have to win to have a good time just learn the game
Comment from : Casey Hamm

Going to try cheating
Comment from : rAfSaN rafsan

There are cheaters but your logic is flawed I can tell you are a bad chess player
Comment from : Lam Regina

Poor Gary Kasparov has the reputation of that one guy who was beaten by deep blue instead of the guy that rivaled Bobbie fisher in his prime I mean I don't feel bad for him but it's funny
Comment from : Noah Muller

That queen sacrifice wasn't that special I'd see it if I had a minute to think
Comment from : Merto6

The first mate he used is actually a pretty common mating pattern, the sacrifice is nice but the double bishop mate is a bodens mate and ive practiced it a lot on lichess, i could totes see a player spotting that move
Comment from : Ultima Materia

You know, if bots in shooter games play as well as the best chess bots, everyone would rage quit just because the bot's accuracy will be >99
Comment from : Jason Chiu

I get what they're trying to explain with the bot moves, but the example shown seemed very plausible for a human to pick up
Comment from : Keith Press

TBH I might find Qd5 if i'm lucky and it's a long time control Those are bstrong/b bishops
Comment from : Pinrui Huang

Easy to cheat but no skills
Comment from : Savio Nokrek

3 Bot moves isn't a thing Me and all of my friends would find Ng5+ fxg5 and qd5
Comment from : ALF8892

But whats gonna happend if ill use a lower elo bot
Comment from : אלוהים

why not just try to match and check stockfish’s moves with niemann’s irl moves during tournaments, so if they match 100 he was most likely cheating since no human plays as perfect as the AI
Comment from : eeek meek

that goes on everywhere now
Comment from : Roy Mayhew

It's almost weird there isn't more cheating Chess is a very popular game with a lot of people being bad at it and cheating is simple
Comment from : kekke2000

that queen move wasn't that hard i believe, tal used to play like that all the time
Comment from : vip

Levy nice explination
Comment from : IAMNOTEGR1

feel like literally any move for a mate in 2 or 3 is pretty human
Comment from : jandy223

I feel like sacrificing the Queen for an obvious checkmate isnt so insane of an idea
Comment from : Kharon

8x8 chess is solved it's 99999 percent openings: youtube/Vk8Ovf4201c
Comment from : Ray Gordon Teaches Chess

There are some extensions on google which are like the analysis board cheat
Comment from : Emptyinme

“Vibrating device” 🤣🤣🤣
Comment from : Anshuman Sinha

They didn't include Hikaru looking at Stockfish on the ceiling
Comment from : Dimas Raditya Bagaskara, SS

whats the purpose of cheating in chess? you will never be good in chess anyway in real life when you cheat, who are you kidding?
Comment from : Arnel Masikip

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Comment from : YuGiOhFanatic

Losing to a tredmill lol
Comment from : PotatoBoxing

Second day playing chess 19/08/2023
Comment from : FCHESS

Not going to lie that first queen sacrifice didn’t look too difficult for a human to imagine
Comment from : Garvey Ashhurst

I'm a complete beginner and I just had a match (600 elo) where my opponent got an accuracy rating of 996brbrThis thumbnail made me feel vindicated
Comment from : Metal-Spark

Every game I’ve played there has been cheapers
Comment from : Liberty Freeman

i was training a specific queen gambit yesterday, my opponent followed all the moves I had in mind, I reacted super fast, and asked me if I was cheating lmaohe just saw later that I only had the advantage at beggining
Comment from : Ranni The Witch

I cheat in online chess because I'm bored and insecure
Comment from : Franz Pattison

The piece is connected to a magnetic field? lol, this is the Levy syndrome, he's so used to talking to dumb viewers that he starts lecturing about stuff he himself doesn't understand
Comment from : Charlie Fleed

Disagree Checkmate in 2 moves with a queen sacrifice? Every chess pro is going to play that If you aren't looking for checkmate in 2 moves, you aren't a chess pro
Comment from : Joey W

Whilst I wouldn't have seen it, I don't think that queen to D5 was that obscene of a move I know it's an example, but it's just a couple of moves
Comment from : v4o82

The queen sacrifice for a checkmate seems possible for humans too I've heard off chess masters sacrificing lots of pieces for a really epic checkmate
Comment from : NightmareGhostReap

LOL i sacrifice queen all the time STFU, those moves aren't cheating !
Comment from : C O

It seems to me that "Semi cheating" becomes more and more popular I had a lot of players who played their opening like total beginners In the middle game, all of a sudden, they play waaaayyyyy better than me, but only in critical situations they always seem to find the best move and when it comes to the endgame we don´t need to talk about how they kill me every time and before anyone says anything, i am not that good i win regularly against 1900- 2000 engines, but when i play online chess against 1600-1700 players i barely have a chance of winning and it happens a lot
Comment from : Riesenhobbit

Maybe they’re just better and you’re mad
Comment from : Mrngamer

Imagine a chess engine looking for multiple ways to kill you in real life
Comment from : Shadow Mann X

I am cheating by using my phone Player vs computer I will simply play the color of my opponent on my phone and imitate the moves of the computer on my desktop hahahaha
Comment from : Sulat Kamay

Sacrificing two major pieces to set up for a checkmate like that with several moves of planning isn't normal for humans, but I'd argue that the queen sacrifice for a double bishop checkmate is something a normal human would spot
Comment from : Biscuit Delivery

What a bBuzzzzz/b brilliant bBZZZZ/b move by Niemann
Comment from : Adam Fanning

None of these chess engines are AI The best chess engines in the world are not AI-based
Comment from : Me

That was a fantastic time Thanks!
Comment from : OhBeEye

Qd5 is not unseeable I (2000 uscf) would have a very good chance of spotting that in a classical game, and titled players could definitely spot that in a blitz game
Comment from : redskins973

Literally, the first example shown any high-rated player could spot It's not that complicated of a Queen sacrifice White has aggressively placed bishop pairs and Black's King is exposed Maybe in a blitz game that might be difficult, but even in a rapid game that isn't that hard to spot Honestly, if that were a puzzle it would be around 1900-2000 rated puzzle, which really isn't that high
Comment from : Azalea Hathaway

Levy was holding the urge to scream THE QUEEN
Comment from : Gael Arturo

I used engine moves moves upto maximum 5 times a game and reached 1100 elo but it stopped my growth now I am 850 elo on my own
Comment from : pranaytopgun047

I’m extremely robotic in life Reasons why I build systems, process and SOP’s for agencies Lol I only see the best outcome without any emotions brbrAnd all of that spills over into my play, “in person” I don’t play online or digital Never have But I’ll give up any piece for the win if it means the win for my system brbrBut just analysis dude I dig it
Comment from : Mark-Anthony J

Chess cheaters are not using AI Just algorithms
Comment from : dalriada

But my chess speaks for itself
Comment from : Intergalactic Overlord

Bad superficial misleading video
Comment from : Blender Wiki

I love this video
Comment from : Chef PeePee

Here in brasil exist a famous youtuber that just used cheat in chess (he is the second or third most famous) and thats embarassing
Comment from : Raul Chequer Barbosa

If someone is cheating online at my rating they are terrible at chess AND cheating
Comment from : Redskies453

I've seen similar things a lot on even 900 1000 It's like i refuse to believe that they're at that level Why do some players at 1200 play way worse?
Comment from : Mc 99

I've made "AI moves" before, sacrificing my queen or rook for checkmate, but they were only a flash of genius during one of "those" games, and I'm still sitting at 700 elo with 49 winrate
Comment from : TheFatCat

Thank you for these strategies I just won my local chess tournament!
Comment from : Keith Foley

5:16 that's not how old the account is
Comment from : Andi Zauberness

when you dont cheat, and someone calls you a cheater, you know you're gonna have a bright future
Comment from : UnderRated

Video: says cheating is bad, pros can only think of every move outcome to about 4 steps ahead brVideo example of cheating: shows a puzzle example that most people could figure out with time, that checkmates in 4 moves brbr💀💀💀
Comment from : The Average Dev

What, his justification is a human wont sacrifice the queen?brbrThe queen is just a piece, id sacrifice it a million times over if i can get the win Pawns are more valuable to me, because pawns are relentless at moving forward and controlling the board, everything wlse is to support the pawns
Comment from : Robert

If there's a game that end in only five move and someone's rating is 975, would it be cheating?( I met this and I'm the guy)
Comment from : sdgfv

I sac a queen for mate but analysis say it a blunder 💀💀
Comment from : SmarteropMCTH

izit still sus to get 989 without chess engine,especially if they resign
Comment from : tino

While no human has played that exact sequence, I'd not be surprised if Mikhail Tal had come close, with some pretty similar stuff But I'm not really a profound chess connoisseur to say for sure, maybe actual chess experts can clearly kind of draw a line between things Tal would do and things only engines would The only thing I can sort of guess would that the engines would kind of out-Tal Tal, with the human Tal sequences probably not even scoring as high in the engine evaluation, where they'd perhaps come up with something even weirder/bolder (or rather more conventional, tame/human-like, possibly, at times Sometimes some moves have a psychological effect of seemingly posing a great threat/surprise when there's some defense that's available, but neglected, not being as obvious as it would be to an engine or even to someone playing more calmly)
Comment from : Petitio Principii

2000 elo, opponent 1950, accuracy 98 and a rating of 2850 that’s always suspicious
Comment from : ThaProfitt lol

I can only sacrifice a queen on accident or knowing I can do back rank
Comment from : sunflower3636

I can't even count how many times I've played AI generated chess puzzles that basically requires you to sacrifice your queen for a potential victory only to scream at the screen that no one in their right mind would even consider it
Comment from : Quadraxis

The trick is that if you know you are playing against a computer you know it is not just a stupid mistake and you will not so easily fall for it
Comment from : Okaro

Just these people, whom you suspect, actually have a super cool compact convenient universal keyboard with artificial intelligence Oops sorry, my dog accidentally chose one brilliant outcome out of 996 million next time I won't let him near my tablet
Comment from : Devinex

Butt vibrator
Comment from : waves

The first 30 seconds is just dumb lol Maybe in low time controls they wouldn’t do that, but even in rapid they’d have time to think and realize that’s a pretty obvious mating sequence
Comment from : Derek Freeman

Me: sees this brilliant move by sacrificing a queenbrLevy: CHEATER
Comment from : ShadowStrike Gaming

My name is Bot Seriously my real name
Comment from : Gildog 1

jajaj a ver, con lo del inicio Mi vro, son humanos, no robots Tienen la suficiente creatividad y destreza como para en algún momento realizar un sacrificio o una trampa xd Literalmente, en secundaria, en mis cursos de ajedrez esas jugadas eran de lo más normal xD
Comment from : Saytron

"Kesperov" 💀
Comment from : Nippleless Cage

Tbh that could also be titled as 'The best queen sacrifice of all time'
Comment from : 94D33M

9:27 - "No human in history has ever played a sequence of moves like that"brbrNezhmetdinov rolls over in his grave, remember 5 or 6 of his own games
Comment from : MrVVulf

Out of curiosity, what if there was someone who was both a chess prodigy as well as possessing an eidetic (photographic) memory? If that person would review hundreds of games a day, he would essentially have the same memory functionality as a bot This would be an interesting challenge to the scientific community
Comment from : Jonah Kyle

Magnus carlsen on Adderall as someone on Adderall is a really scary thought it's definitely a performance enhancing drug for chess 😂😂
Comment from : Oliver Parrish