Title | : | Naturehike Cloud Peak 2 VS Hilleberg Allak 2 Review, Is it better? Why the £1000 price gap? |
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Views | : | 33 rb |
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Why would any one want to camp in snow or in a storm? Campings meant to be a bit of fun Well actually for me, its a means to an end as I do it fish remote lakes I think people take things too seriously Comment from : Carl Hughes |
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Naturehike is a far more practical tent Lighter and also cooler in summer Who needs a four season tent - probably less than 1 per cent of backpackers/campers Comment from : scrumpymanjack |
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I knew I had seen this, nice to meet you both today on hay on Wye 👍 Enjoy the rest of the offas dyke Comment from : MAXIM OUTDOORS |
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thanks for vid wud that mesh let in midges do you think with them being so small? Comment from : Freedom Music Ireland |
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Good points all around Well done Comment from : havegregory |
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I'd buy neither I'm more likely to buy from Terra Nova Their tents are more than enough Started with a Helm and upgraded to a pioneer 2 Comment from : Chris Smith |
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😂😂😂 Comment from : Der Herr Müller |
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I could not own a naturehike just in case I’ve bumped into someone with a Hilleberg 😂😂😂 Great review Comment from : JAKE ROAD TO NOWHERE |
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I bought the Naturehike for the price of the groundsheet of the Hilleberg hahahaha! Comment from : Arjen du Gardijn |
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10 of the price Comment from : Andy Murray |
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Naturehike is a Chinese brand, the labor cost is only 1/8 of ours, so this is the price gap Comment from : Collinsoutdoors |
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Weight difference? Comment from : Adrian T |
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I also have the Naturehike Cloud Peak 2 and agree that it's not a 4 season tent, but I don't have any plans to camp in snowbrbrPersonally I think that there are a few advantages to the hillaberg, but nothing like the cost differentialbrbrI paid £135 for my Cloud Peak 2 last year which is 1/8th of the cost of the Hillaberg and some of the issues with my tent can easily and cheaply be fixed, even changing the poles for 9mm diameterbrbrI agree that it would be better if the groundsheet covered the vestibule, but a piece of Tyvec does the job for me and weights very littlebrbrI think that many of those who buy the Hillaberg will never use it in the extreme conditions it is designed for and could be simply bowing to the marketing hype Comment from : Anthony Howard |
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good revieuw thank and grts Comment from : Danny Van |
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kazoo make a tent like te cloude peak 2 , but 1/3 of the prise f Comment from : Danny Van |
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If you were going for 15 days on a glacier on Baffin Island and you were given the choice, you WOULD pay the money, gladly, no questions asked That's what Hillebergs are about, that's where they start to make sense Comment from : kartofff |
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YKK zippers Comment from : Queazy Rider |
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Can you get the cloud peak and upgrade it for a few quid more? Comment from : alan robinson |
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I won't buy from a Chinese company! Yes most materials come from China, but I'm certainly not going to give them direct business as a consumer Comment from : PaddlePaddlePaddle |
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This was a really well done review, mate! Keeping it all real and grounded brYeah, if the Naturehike is a Ford, I'd say the Hilleberg is closer to a Lamborghini - they both get you A to B, but the Lamborghini requires a race track to actually be used for what it was made I mean, the quality is just truly amazing, but that kind of expedition style tent is only "correctly dimensioned" for a few numbers of situations Instead, I'd choose the Naturehike and have the remaining £965 to spend on food and such for my adventures Comment from : Fiskmas Adventures |
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Think you made a vocal typo, you accidentally said 'guide' rope Comment from : Bahamas Tarry |
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had 2 cloud peak 2 tents, both failed me due to cheap zips, sent them back got a refund, scarp 1 kinda guy now, or will be on wednesday when its due to be delivered Comment from : Dan & Meg Outdoors |
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I don't see the price of the Allak justified Just pieces of nylon and small aluminium poles with the price of a smartphone with the highest tech humanity could make Comment from : MrDosonhai |
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Good and sensible review 👍 Comment from : AR9fy |
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A hilleberg used to cost a little more than a Vango Now their prices have gone through the roof and don’t reflect the quality one bit 🤷♂️ Comment from : Hardy Bunster |
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south korea weather is worm so, allak2 is too hot Comment from : heaye K |
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a great new vid along these lines would be to see if the cloud peak inner fits in the hille it would be a lighter and cooler option for hille ownersand considering those guys payy £115 for a footprint sure theyd buy a cloud p2 for a spare summer inner tent ???? Comment from : Rooksfoot 1 |
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Over priced greedy company Comment from : Jim Mcguinness |
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As an owner of the CP2 I can confirm it's possible to get one side of the fly flush with the ground, albeit at the cost of raising the other side up higher If you have wind consistently coming in from one direction that's fine Comment from : Darth KEK |
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Great comparison thank you Nevermind what is out there whether its tents clothing or anything retail , some people just have to have the dearest to feed their egobrHilleberg executives must be having a right laugh at staff meetings wondering how high they can go before sales drop offbrbrI once worked at a factory where the workers would always put kwiksave food into a M&S bag to carry around the place to make it look like thats where their wives went shopping because it was expensive and super quality ( Similiar I think) Pigs arse they did Comment from : Lucy Mooch |
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there is NO comparison, you get what you pay for Comment from : Spaceman |
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Great comparison mate, I love the hilleberg but the weight makes it a no Do you know a tent with the same size that would be in-between the 2 in weight and hopefully price? All I can think of is tarp tent scarp 2 but they are never in stock Comment from : Outdoor Ting |
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Agree, very expensive The price of Hfootprint almost is a cost of your tent Unbelievable I bought Hilleberg Staika similar to Allak on used market Was worrying paying bit above half price of RRP, that was before prices went up Never regret my purchase I use my Staika a lot, it paid of in terms of money and emotions, places I’ve been to Comment from : Kris |
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nature hike made chin Comment from : श्रीमान प्रजातंत्र |
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Great video buddy… new sub from trev’s channel 👍 Comment from : The Wiltshire Womble |
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phenomenal side by side review, thank you for straight to the point and no bs! Comment from : Cipher-Tu Productions |
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I used my cloud peak 2 last month for first time seems a great tent Comment from : DJV Outdoors |
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very fair review value decision (use vs money) - do you camp in winter or predominantly summer? how much are you prepared to carry (weight wise) BUT, the NH is not a 4 season tent so in a way it's apples and oranges - but its still great to see these kind of comparisons nice one :) Comment from : joe public |
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Slightly dubious of the "KY" zips on the Nature Hike 😀 Fascinating comparison seeing the nature hike and the "inspiration" behind it (!) side by side Thanks Comment from : Dean Smith |
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Pissed of of idiotic reviews The main point here is that it depends what are you doing I suggest you are not going to use Naturehike for very demanding conditions and/or life heavy snow/winter conditions Nobody buys a Rolls for shopping and nobody buys a Ford to go on race track Comment from : Wild Frames |
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IF and that's a BIG IF ! I could get a Hilleberg I wouln't Why? WAY overpriced period! Comment from : Gary Pritchard |
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Good comments, I could afford the expensive one, but tbh, unless I was going up the Himalayas I would choose the Naturehike Comment from : LOFI GSD |
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Funny „my wife would kill me if I spent that money on a tent“well some men seem to be dominated by their wifesHilleberg tents are the cheapest you can get when going outdoors trips where you want/need reliable „accommodation“ Comment from : SE Fritz |
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I’m very serious Why do so many blokes, say, “ I think that my wife would kill me if ! “ ?? Do you just say that , because you don’t want to spend the (£) difference or are you really afraid of your Strife?brI buy what I like I don’t ask my wife if it’s OK She doesn’t own me and isn’t my MumbrThis has nothing to do with which tent I’d buy Comment from : Jamie Morgan |
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Its a matter of Need brI will never own a Nasa Space Rocket, i can just travel the same distance with a Bicycle, for free in comparison! Comment from : Denstoradiskmaskinen |
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I own two hilleberg tents they r amazing and worth every dollar and saving up for The investment will keep u safe and secure and last a lifetime Ull pass them down Don't go cheap yull suffer for it and put ur life at risk very easily Comment from : Jason V |
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Brilliant review, well done I own two Hilleberg tents, both 4-5 years old so purchased before Hilleberg jacked up their prices The quality is good but I have the impression, as a company, Hilleberg has become fat, lazy and arrogant But that's going to happen to any company when you know people will always buy your stuff regardless of price It's a shame there isn't a closer competitor in terms of build quality That said, most people really don't need a tent that can withstand 50+ mph winds, so save your money and go for the very good cheaper options available I won't be buying another Hilleberg until their prices return to a more sane level Comment from : Rob Stanley |
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Naturehike all day Long £200 it’s a robbery tbh Comment from : Rocco Stiff |
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a good comparison i think but for me it comes down to where and when your going to use it the naturehike wo'nt take the winds like the hille but if your smart you pitch out of the wind they are both good tents but the hille is over priced and very heavy for a wildcamping tent at 35 kg but it is pretty bombproof ? the naturehike is a very cheaper version and for most folk more than adequate for me the hille is defo a better tent but abit over kill if your not into winter camping ? atb kev Comment from : kinder kev |
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Would the ground mat of the hilleberg fit the cloud peak ? thanks Comment from : neprajah |
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Just getting back into ca,ping after a long while and your videos have been really helpful Comment from : The Autumn Stone |
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Sound, pragmatic review The Hilliberg is just too expensive for ordinary people on a budget Others have made simple mods to the Naturehike which resolve many of the issues - pegs; bungee replacement on the roof; stronger guy ropes and new 9mm poles If that adds up to another £100 you still have a great value tent in the Naturehike Comment from : David F |
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You are really comparing apples and oranges Hilleberg is a true four season tent and the Cloud Peak is a summer tent / camping tent If you should compare it to a hilleberg you should compare it to a Hilleberg Rogen brSorry I would never take the Cloud Peak to the Scandinavian mountains 🤣 Comment from : Øyvind Westrum |
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I have both these tents and a soulo the cloudpeak was my first backpacking tent I bought And to be honest the more used of the 3 less weight less faff and certainly less condensation I love the hillebergs don’t get me wrong but I will never sell the nature hike i just have a soft spot for it lol Comment from : suppaz pumaz |
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Most honest review I’ve ever watched Comment from : MALLY DAGS TV |
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The other, much cheaper tent, is a proper bargain though, and I would use it as a default if I had no other choice, or rather, some choice, but wanted the luxury of space, with a fairly sturdy design But as you point out, the tapes that clip the fly to the poles look piss poor, and you can see all the places the tent is likely to fail when that time comes And I wouldn’t want to be in all that collapsing nylon in a force eight gale on the top of a Scottish Munro That would be the time you wished you had stumped up the cash for that Allak! Comment from : Bob Phillips |
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Oh by the way brilliant review 👍 Comment from : Alan Short |
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I love the look of the hillies, but 37 kg, no thanks, I would need a Sherpa 🤣 Comment from : Alan Short |
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The weight of the Hilleberg basically stops it being a backpacking tent They look similar but are not really comparable If I had to choose it would be the Naturehike Can't imagine ever wanting to carry the other one Comment from : jeff johnstone |
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Great review mate 👍 Can’t get past 37kg for the Hilleberg though 🙀 That’s not a backpacking tent! ⛺️ Comment from : Backpacking UK |
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put the difference into a backup bivi bag and some other luxury extras ? Comment from : Sebastian Forbes |
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The Allak 2 is worth every PENNY, but I live in Northern Norway so I guess the weather here is a little more harsh than UK Comment from : Eirik Jarl Mikkelborg |
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Great review, I think the biggest issues is the extra weight of the Hilleberge walking with it would be a problem and the basically 10 times extra cost Comment from : Stuart Walmsley |
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Really nice review! I'm thinking of buying Allak 2 or Allak 3 but having a reeeally hard time deciding as the Allak 2 would be awesome for 1 but on the edge with 2 and no floorspace, and the opposite for the Allak 3 Whats your thoughts, is the 2 large enough for 2 grown ups? Comment from : Paul Andersson |
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Nice and honest review, I enjoyed it For my journeys I rely on a Hilleberg Unna tent Although I have to admit it is impressive what that Naturehike tent offers for its money, I think the real difference will get dramaticly obvious in bad weather Heavy and prolonged rains, intense winds and snowy conditions: there is were things really start to matter Comment from : Kayasper |
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Great comparison video, thanks for making it 👍 Comment from : The Camping Astronomer |
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I have wrestled with the idea of getting the allak 2 but I can't justify the price So I got the cloud peak 2 and enjoyed the tent in the rain and wind great review and the love your honesty Comment from : The Southern Woodsman UK |
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Great vid Rob, I think I am with you on this oneHilleberg's are the Rolls Royce of tents, my friend has just bought a Hilleberg Unna and you can really see the quality of their tents but for wild camping in the UK the Cloud Peak 2 is definitely good enough, like you said, the only thing I'd prefer on the Cloud Peak 2 is for the footprint to cover the vestibule area as wellcheers, Luke Comment from : Lincs Luke Adventures |
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Nice comparison with some good points Thanks Hilleberg are great tents ⛺️👍🏼 Comment from : Wild Mountain Man |
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Very nice comparison Rob Got a few mates with the Cloud Peak 2 but gotta love a Hilleberg Especially if you're gonna summit camp ⛰🏕br😁🤙🏻 Comment from : the_height_ of_life |
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Isn't the diameter of the tent poles of Cloud Peak 2 85 mm? Comment from : Lige |
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Think weight is a big thing too, the Naturehike in my opinion is top weight for backpacking but the Hilliberg is not really a backpacking tent but mainly for weekenders and wild campers - still prefer my 12 kg tent but like you looking for maybe to buy a couple of others for different trips but nice review - Thanks Comment from : Expedition Hiker |
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Best comparison I've seen, excellent Is the weight worth it, and can it be reduced for warmer use? Comment from : Dreaming of The Outdoors |
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Sometimes you just don't get the extra value for the extra cost Great video Have a fantastic Easter Comment from : HighlandHiker |
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Great review Rob, it's good to see the two together, as good as the Hilleberg is though I could never justify that price, that's a lot of money, I think my most used tent is less than the footprint was 😂😂, thanks for sharing and all the best, Paul Comment from : Budd Outdoors |
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Great comparison video Rob I’m assuming that the Hilleberg tents are really for people who have deep pockets and are going out camping in extreme weathers I seem to recall that even the great man Paul Messner highly rated the Nature Hike tents and recommended them for the vast majority of camps outside of the worst winter weather Comment from : Anthony Johnson |
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Evening Rob, love this! Fabulous side by side comparison, very in depth and I think the quality shines through on those key points, the devil is in the detail However I guess the true test is time also We aren't familiar with either tent so found this walk around really useful, thanks Rob All comes down to your needs and musts, we wlildbt need the Hildeberg or use it enough The nature hike looked so good for the price too Have a great weekend and happy Easter to you, 🐰🥚👍😊❤ ps lockdown hair looked absolutely fine! Comment from : Tea In Valhalla |
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