How Much Professional Dancers Really Make Starting Out - TwinTalksBallet

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Title	:	How Much Professional Dancers Really Make Starting Out - TwinTalksBallet
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What ab backup dancers on tours?
Comment from : Alondra Acosta-Mora

you can open your own studio
Comment from : Hannah Rock

or get a master degree teach in college or teach in high school you have to be great at choreography too
Comment from : Hannah Rock

or be a stripper sorry but reality
Comment from : Hannah Rock

real restate, forget making money from doing art
Comment from : Hannah Rock

Hi Kirsten! 5 yrs later and this video is still as relevant as ever Thank you so much for sharing! I am in my junior year as a dance major and it is so helpful to get real advice about what to expect financially coming out of college
Comment from : Shacile Harrison

Did you say 45000 a year is the top of the profession? Really? Seems really low? Is that full time?
Comment from : PY Y

you look like Eleanor from The Good Place!
Comment from : marilu

Wow thats insane! In china the pay is much much higher due to the growing demand
Comment from : Hayley So

Get to the point Too much unnecessary talking
Comment from : Josephina Williams

I think the gender pay gap is primarily because very few boys dance anyways, especially ballet, which is seen as very feminine and gay Given that there are so few male dancers, it is just economics why they get paid more for less techniques
Comment from : Emma L

You can always open your own business and use the artist name to promote your business
Comment from : EARA

What compeny do you work at
Comment from : Emily Kadosh

That’s insane that the pay is super low
Comment from : Alezandra Davila

What content do you make on youtube as a dancer?
Comment from : Trelly Productions

sadddd deciding to quit dance senior year to focus more on college, I couldn’t stand not being financially independent I love dance and have danced my whole life But dance has become so much less fulfilling and the culture of ballet in my state is pretty unhealthy and unfair Hope everyone is doing well
Comment from : Audrey Gracie

I really want to become a professional dancer but I’m worried I won’t be financially stable
Comment from : Aria Gonzalez

Where do you live? Do you live in nyc? Btw your apartment is so cute
Comment from : Michelle Marie

Hi there brHope you are doing wellbrIm 20 years old and i want to learn ballet 😭 brIdk how to star
Comment from : abod alrasheed

Thank you for telling the honest facts These are important thing for aspiring dancers to know! I'd like to add that when it comes to succeeding as a dancer, I'm a strong believer in thinking outside of the box In fact, like you've said, you pretty much have to be an entrepreneur in order to make a living from it Right now, ballet almost exclusively pays my bills My morning job is teaching Pilates And as I've mentioned to you before, my musician husband and I have a small group of musicians and dancers and we are employed by the city to perform at events, council meetings, etc I also teach ballet at an academy on the side We currently live in Seattle,WA and because of all the work we have put into networking, marketing and putting ourselves out there, I make more per year than the average dancer at Pacific Northwest Ballet (I take their class regularly) and I dont have to worry about renewing my contracts My manager knows me well and continues to find me work, with and without the group I am currently working on a license as an HCA (caregiver) to take care of my disabled neighbor part time, but my plan is to use the license to also expand our performance atmosphere to nursing homes and places with disabled patients so that they can enjoy ballet as well This will be state funded This is just a brief summary of how I keep my ballet career going, but I would love to help you in aiding your viewers/followers who are struggling in finding a similar path in order to dance successfully! I will contact you in regards to booking a consultation with you and hopefully we can shed more light on this for your fans Much love You rock, Kirsten! <3
Comment from : Ba11er1na Do11

You kind of remind me of Evan Rachel Wood 🌼
Comment from : Celeste Massarenti

I'm grateful for sacrifices dancers endure to amaze, inspire, astound, & entertainbrWaitressing is lucrative for dancers partly because they are so incredibly gorgeous Tip big! It supports the arts
Comment from : John Tempest

It’s sad how dancers can’t be rewarded abundantly for their hard work and talent It seems the companies cannot afford to pay their dancers much $ because the arts are not sought after by the masses Most people would rather go to a rock/rap concert than to the ballet
Comment from : Lady Neptune

To me dancing should be done for fun and not for living or as a career It’s ashamed but it’s the truth the arts aren’t really reliable income jobs
Comment from : Daniel De la Cruz

If you are a good dancer, aka amazing self worker, than you should be fine in life A recommendation is to graduate high school
Comment from : JD233 Joel

in which compagnies are u ?
Comment from : jean Augnet

Interesting (just trying to get 100 comments🤦🏼‍♀️)
Comment from : МИР ХОМЯЧКОВ

If I like comment and subscribe does that increase your Adsense ? bc I absolutely adore ballet and would love to support a dancer Hope this helps (:
Comment from : ani nani

Hello I’m a boy ballet dancer and I just want to know if I will make anything if I get into a professional ballet school when I’m older
Comment from : HyPo

Am I the only guy here ;-;
Comment from : MRwingdings

I understand why many dancers (perhaps in NA) have sponsors to assist them in their careers I'm shocked at how little dancers earn, especially considering how hard they work, and have worked, for many years
Comment from : steemdup

it really makes you wonder how much exploitation occurs The competition is fierce, cost of living in big cities are hgh, etc With recent exposure of the #metoo in hollywood, one has to wonder how many of these young and hungry dancers feel they have no choice when propositioned on the "casting couch"
Comment from : t bow

Jim Cornette always says, "If it don't make dollars, it don't make sense!"
Comment from : Quach7

During the Renaissance, artists of all types — painters, sculptors, dancers, theater — were the celebrities of society While professional artists are still respected in today’s society, that “celebrity” is now held by athletes and movie actors (who may or may not have the talent needed to be an “artist”) While I doubt my daughter will ultimately continue her dancing into a career, if she does, I plan on teaching her to do excellent financial planning and being fiscally prudent
Comment from : teambeining

Gotta ask you: Have you ever actually seen an AGMA contract ? I'll bet if you ask, a lot of dancers will send you copies so you can see actual numbers for some companies
Comment from : charles king

I'm still young but being a pro dancer in America is my dream but people don't really think it's the only job I should have cause off the money I do understand ur stituation
Comment from : Donavan Chetty

That's fucked up
Comment from : Laura Belford

Life is very unfair for Ballet Dancers, especially the girls They work like slaves for little pay and their careers are very short I doubt that they have much of a retirement fund either Their only reward is that they are doing something that they love
Comment from : luvmuzik4me

The real reason that male ballet dancers are paid more is because there just isn't as many of thembrI would say that for every 75 female ballet dancers, there is 1 male ballet dancer making them more valuable
Comment from : Michelle

"The dancers in Boston Ballet make $45K, which is totally livable" BAHAHAHAHA! Not in Boston it isn't
Comment from : camcat26

I feel that this is a very good topic The truth is over my 18 year career which was contracted and in 11 different countries I have worked for The Queensland ballet, the Royal New Zealand ballet, the Queensland balletbrI have never earned more than 40 thousand dollars Ironically the contracts that I had with Carnival working on Cunard line were more lucrative Cruise and comercial work use ballet dancers and pay accommodation, travel and you can save your salary which for 2009-2014 eight shows world travel contract and a great way to save a mortgage/ retire from dance I saved 30kbrNorth America is the only place that has 32 week contracts The EU pays around 1000 euros per month for 14 months a year because it is doubled for Christmas They also give you a holiday in August payed Unless you are working in Eastern Europe where you will be on a lower wage If you are on tour your wage is doubled so when I worked for ballet Jorgen in Canada my 600 was doubled for around 20 weeks because we were on tour so much Men are harder to come buy and that's the double standard so true!!! This is a woman dominated industry yet very tough on women brThanks for your honesty brI'm 38- retired at 36 pregnant I started in China Guangzhou ballet my mum is a government worker single parent I
Comment from : Lily BG

I was a ballet dancer for 7 yearsI got payed as much as a teacher
Comment from : Lauren Rizzo

I was in a smaller company for a few years My pay went up every year by about 50 dollars biweekly I started at 350 a week and my roommates, who were in the same company, got paid similar wages We had all of our pointe shoes and other shoes paid for by the company They paid for one pair a week which was more than enough and would equate to an additional 50-100 dollars a week I never tried negotiating my pay but could have probably received more if I did
Comment from : 2peopleonacouch

Where you learned dance? Now I'm in process of finding the best high school for me and please give me an answer💞💖💕💓💘💗
Comment from : Iva

Thank you for this video so much!!! I love you! Ballet is my life!
Comment from : Iva

Question, is medical insurance included?
Comment from : Erin S

Truth is that we do it not for the money but for our love of dance
Comment from : Tricia Skinner

nice information dear thanks ur so cute :)
Comment from : Gk & fact

On a diff note, this is much like people who think to be a super model/high-end fashion model is so glamorous and high payIt's not You start out so low or without pay and without consistent jobs etc You typically have to climb the ladder anywhere you work
Comment from : Megan Garcia

All I can say is WOW! I never knew the details of a professional Ballet dancer and I luv the art WOW!
Comment from : WmsFamily Williams

All that beauty dedication and hard work, dancers should be compensated better Thank you for sharing!
Comment from : Vickygrl737

what college did u attend? Also HI I am new to ur channel, Im a 15 year old girl sorta a beginning ballet/contemporary dancer not pointe yet maybe in a year(because I do learn very quickly)but my weight is a bit above average maybe 145 and I'm 5'5 should I be worried about my weight?Just a random question sorry
Comment from : Grace Cho

SOOO negative!!! Also she said she just started out making NOTHING and she thinks she knows everything about dancers' pay? hm
Comment from : Amie K

This is great Kirsten ! Good job !
Comment from : D Danielle

Please talk about eating habits!!!
Comment from : Dancer21

Hi Kristen! Thank you for making this video, it was really helpful! Do you know if modern/contemporary companies are similar? Thanks!
Comment from : Erin Marie

Can you talk about what grading is like at university ballet programs? Do they grade really harshly? Is it hard to maintain a 40 with ballet grades?
Comment from : Jessica Anderson

Does the same apply for modern dance companies?
Comment from : pamyla’s world 🪐

Wow I really didn't know that in some companies girls are paid less than boys It's cruel and sad :( I would really like to know more about your experiences! I mean about your company (in what company are you, how the situation you are in works, is it like a stage/performing practice etc) how you auditioned :) I hope my question made sense :D Thanks
Comment from : Julija Stankevičiūtė

Not saying that the pay gap is in any way appropriate, but do you think shoes factor into it at all? Pointe shoes are not cheap
Comment from : Ciara1211

If you get hired as a corp de ballet member, will you make enough to live on that one salary? I sure hope so One freelance dancer with a high social media profile is Taylor Gordon, and she teaches pilates, dance classes, etc She is able to make her living with all dance or dance-related activities Are you able to do that? Food service is hard on your feet and legs
Comment from : Linda Harrison

Thank you so much for sharing this!
Comment from : Sarah N

Thank you for this honest and refreshing video! So important to share with this with those that are deciding what to do about their future plans in college, dancing professionally and in life!
Comment from : Victoria Warren

This is why I decided to not pursue dance professionally I'll always love dance and will continue to do it, but also I realized my talents are better with teaching Plus I like stability and having extras like trips and what not Kudos to you and other dancers pursuing this career
Comment from : Taryn Dee

Thanks for sharing - I had always wondered I also appreciate your honesty - I can see how making this sort of video couldn't have been easy Cudos!
Comment from : Julia Gifford

Could you do a video talking about how being vegan at the UofU was? I will be a ballet major there this fall and I'm really worried about it
Comment from : Abby

Thank you, thank you, thank you!! As a dancer preparing to move away to pursue dance please make more videos like these I need them Thank you
Comment from : Dancing For My Savior

your videos are so helpful and you never fail to answer all of my questions about ballet thank you (:
Comment from : Ale R

how much Money does ballet dancers (Corps) earn???????
Comment from : Miranda

please do a video about the wage gap!! thank you for always being so informative and real <3
Comment from : cheyanna

thanks for getting real you gave a good perspective for us was always curious and aspiring pros need to know
Comment from : Kathy Myers

Arts in general isn't transparent about money I heard males have shorter careers Is that true?
Comment from : TheMagdalenaBB

Thank you so much for sharing Kirsten! I had no idea about the boys, that's crazy!!! I am now wondering if this is the same in Europe(as I am still in training and don't know much about the salaries over here) This is such a delicate topic to discuss and I am so happy you addressed it! :-) Love all of your content!
Comment from : Jennifer Kohli

this made me a bit sad i had hopes and dreams of joining a large company can you talk more about YAGP
Comment from : Emily Wash

Thank you for the video! I'm not a dancer myself (injuries have sadly made that impossible) but I love watching your content I wish you the best of luck with any outside job you may end up having and of course that things will work out at your company!
Comment from : Jana Jánská

Reality: good male dancers are much more difficult to find than good female dancers; therefore, a good male dancer is more valuable in the market than a good female dancer
Comment from : iampracticingpiano

It is actually sad to hear the reality Thanks for sharing the info
Comment from : Simon P

Thank you so much for making this video! I think transparency is a great thing and thanks for sharing your story It means a great deal that you still make videos despite having to work lots of jobs and thanks for all your helpful videos! I hope that the bookkeeping goes well! <3
Comment from : Gwen Leung