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2020 Tesla Model Y Test Results | Talking Cars with Consumer Reports #287

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I've had my Model Y now for 2 years, not a single issue Love it to death, ill never go back to gas Also, windshield wipers eipers do have a physical button Press in the left gear stock and it wipes once, and it brings up wiper control on the screen, touch the speed of wiper you want easy peasy Also, voice commands will do anything you want Comment from : Nunyabidness

4:05 “Nothing is for Free” is incorrect The model s was so good you said it rode like a Lexus, was quiet like a Lexus and handled like a Porsche SO IT IS POSSIBLE!!!!! Comment from : Upstart5228

Now I understand Consumer Reports really is corrupt The comment section confirms it Comment from : Joe O

This is the cheapest super car on the market Comment from : Doctor Patient Bridge

I have been driving my Y for 3 years and love every moment of it Comment from : Doctor Patient Bridge

Where do find “Show Notes” that you frequently mention? Comment from : Bob Blount

You guys aren’t bias at all considering the ford foundation is your number one donor…… Not to mention your board is mostly made up of ex ford employees Comment from : ADMIRAL PIETT

Dishonest reporting by a financially corrupt organization (The Ford foundation is a top donor to CR) You guys have zero integrity brSCREW CONSUMER REPORTS Comment from : Keilder

this is so stupid what if there are a couple of people in front of you at the charge station you'll be there for hours Comment from : Tom D

The arguments are just ridiculous The so-called 'test' is nothing more than a sham to get readers or perhaps payback from ICE industry Consumer Report should be ashamed of the methods they 'review' Tesla and comments that make no sense at best EVERY company in the world offers BETA and it is by definition voluntary to join They are not called Guinea Pigs Have you ever used software? Why are people who have no understanding of any technology commenting on things they have no real information about No wonder your magazine is dying Low quality, and now flat misleading Shame on you Comment from : Sean F

The Model Y is one of the best Cars on the market! Never ever I would Drive this Ford or GM rubbish again! Comment from : Bee Marine

The voice control is completely useless on the S - is it the same system?brI think most of the criticisms are correct, if they are similar in operation to the S Comment from : Wol747

Tesla-Looks like a regular car-overpriced garbage Toyota coming out with Solid state batteries-10 minute charge time-they have over a 1000 patents on this technology-Toyota is the masterbrof hybrids-electric is next on the list Comment from : Chris Zawertany

I find the door handles to be easy to use - push with thumb, grab with fingers It's a short initial adjustment period I strongly disagree with your comments on the screen The essential driving information is clear and visible Other functions should be set while you are parked, not while you are driving, for any car I owned BMW's for years and never did get comfortable with their electronic interface In the Tesla, you set your mirrors and seat position once Adjusting vents is a unique visual treat The glove box two step is a bit odd, but it is easy with a voice command Comment from : John Lebens

On battery evolution alone, new electric vehicles hold the appeal for me Comment from : Scott Grohs

I have been contributing to CR—financially and as a consumer advocate since 1977brI have great respect for all that organization does for consumers, for many yearsbrThat said, CU simply doesn’t fully understand EV’s and especially TeslabrI have owned a Tesla since 2015—Model S P85D Fit and finish is very good, notbrLexus great, but very good Autopilot is a life saving and fatigue saving feature thatbrI will not live without going forward, especially driving across the Kansas plainsbrTesla is a new car company with new car issues that they will take care of, asbrinconvenient as it is sometimes, they always have made good with me After threebrvisits to the SC for minor adjustments and one ranger visit for airbag recall in 2016,brthis car has been wonderfulbrFor me, new American car company Tesla gets a pass on their growing painsbrObviously these guys don’t own and live with a Tesla day in and day out to reallybrunderstand any charging brtips on a trip, or even where the wipers control is located Showing one carbrwith a leak problem is not representative of the majority of cars Tesla is having brsome fit and finish issues SOMETIMES, they will figure it outbrLevel 5 full self driving is coming soon, regardless of what these guys think about Teslabrdrivers contributing to the NN data Subscription transport is coming , V TO G is coming, brsolid state batteries are coming and Tesla is leading the world, disrupting outdated brand inefficient industries and technologies, and are many years ahead of the closest brcompilation, what ever company that might be, VW—nope!, Lucid—nope!, GM—🤣,brFord—nice try, but nope, Chrysler—seriously?, Porsche—nice fit and finish of course, but nope,brBMW—nope, Neo—copying Tesla and doing well in China, Xpeng—same as NeobrAgain, many years ahead of any potential competitorsbrThese CU guys are old school ICE lovers at heart, not a bad thing, but they have not drilled brdown deep enough—pun intended—into EV technology and industry trends to speak brin a truly knowledgeable way on this subjectbrFit and finish, and showing one leaky car represents very little to nothing in the scheme of TeslabrI have a hunch that these CU guys don’t like the mad CEO of Tesla, just a hunch Comment from : Brian James

I just can't get over the laptop look Seems like you could accidently bump it and tear it up I wish it was integrated into the dash and just use voice control only Comment from : Andromeda Galaxy

It would be really cool to be part of the network of Tesla's that replace Uber and Lyft! We could have a little reality show which would be a type of advertising through our channels that could inevitably lead to more people buying Tesla's! I have a background in Automotive Marketing Business Administration and Commercial Energy Also I'm starting a channel called PROTESLA POWER Of course this channel will talk about Nikola Tesla, Energy generation, Health and well-being, Tesla motors, Elon Musk, SpaceX, etc I live just outside of Toronto Canada and could really use some advice on how to get my channel off the ground I've sent several messages to Elon Musk on Twitter but he gets so many messages in a day or mine probably get overlooked I think I could be doing a lot more to help people get a Tesla in their driveways faster I also believe that if you're going to have an EV you might want to have solar generation and battery storage which I also have a business plan to implement If you like these ideas or have some of your own to offer, I would really like to know I do appreciate all of you and your comments This is the time and we are the people that will change the world!brpropower101@hotmailcom Comment from : PROTESLAPOWER

I know it's not a popular opinion, but the Tesla Model 3 and Y are cars designed from the ground up to be full self driving cars, and the instrument panels, layout, and other features are designed as such Much like Apple's decision to remove the audio jack on their phones Apple saw a future that's better without cords, while Tesla see a future without drivers Yes, predictions like these will drive many people crazy, but it's not disruptive technology if it doesn't do that Comment from : Lanzer

We took delivery on the Tesla Model Y in December and there were zero quality issues - no panel gap issues, no paint issues, no alignment or other issues Lots of You Tube videos have talked about the improvement in quality over the past few months as compared to the early cars made I agree with you that the car drives nice, handles well and is a comfortable ride except maybe on bumpy roads We are still adjusting to the screen controls but for the most part there is very little involvement with it that is required while driving I've learned to use the scroll wheels on the steering wheel for some adjustments and also the audio commands that you can use for things like temperature and windshield wipers I do agree that the lack of a blind spot warning on the mirrors is a significant oversight and I miss this a lot Hopefully Tesla will fix this down the road Overall I like the car and am happy with our purchase so far Comment from : Norm Rusk

Thank you for being willing to call out Tesla for their missteps while so many seem unwilling to do so I'm glad to see Ford and Toyota making better EVs and plug-in hybrids now Comment from : Levi Thomson

Your latest Used Cars guide (April 2021) has a horrible and HUGE error You list every car as having a GOOD "IIHS Small Overlap" I don't think they even did that test in 2011 Comment from : youtoobe169

23:14 a fair point Comment from : Luke Rinderknecht

I test drove a Y and I didn’t like the small window view that you see in the rear view mirror I don’t feel like you have a safe view when you look in the rear view mirror Does Tesla plan to improve this issue? Comment from : Shelley Huskey

I cannot believe CR would recommend a plug-in hybrid over a Tesla Model Y or Audi e-Tron EV I would buy the Y as soon as it rolls off the line in Texas later this year Tesla fixes any issues present at delivery, so there’s no worry there I’ll take fun-to-drive and performance over CR’s reliability rating any day Comment from : Wanda Hudson

Better option A safer driver assistance system with pro pilot (not Nissan’s Infiniti’s) Less cost Premium interior Infiniti QX50 Been in MANY cars with “autopilot” and Pro Pilot Assist in the QX50 is best overall Yes the leaf and rouge have one with the same name but do not incorporate semi autonomous braking and a steer by wire interface that allows for driver input with the system active brbrConsumer reports should test the Infiniti QX50 with pro pilot assist and a HUD To inform people of a better less expensive better value “autopilot” vehicle Comment from : Bryan W

You don't need to use menus for windshield wipers It's right on the main screen on the left bottom 🙄 Comment from : James B

Many functions on a Tesla can be controlled through the scroll wheels on the steering wheel It may not be something a reviewer who has a short time with the car will learn, but an owner will quickly get used to using rather than try the touch screen while drivingbrI don't have Full Self Driving as my car is almost 6 years old, but Autopilot is great for long highway trips It is also useful for short periods when you need your hands, like opening a drink, where people in the past would steer with their knees, or just hope the car goes straight for a minutebrLastly, I think the RAV4 Prime is great and could be the best selling version, except I heard Toyota was really planning a very low production run Has that changed? Comment from : Ken Mcclow

Door knob doesn’t necessarily require both hands as shown Have opened mine for over a year single hand like a handshake Comment from : Niranjan Sivaraman

so FSD was 7k, now 10k, does that have anything to do with Xpeng getting FSD for free? Comment from : Xpeng Fangirl

I can get 2 Xpengs for that kind of money the Xpeng P7 Performance with bembos, software (free from tesla), and an Xpeng G3 for my daily, why would I pay 62,000 dollars for 380hp model 3 on stilts??? Comment from : Xpeng Fangirl

I picked up my model Y in September and have been very happy with the car No reliability concerns here It is a pure joy to drive It is very easy to take one out for a test drive if you live in an area with a Tesla delivery center Tesla also gave me the best trade in value for my previous car which is what sealed the deal for me aside from taking the test drive If you want the most comfortable ride order it with the 19" wheels Comment from : Mike Petrie

6 hours to charge your car??? With the $500 48 A option? I continue to be amazed at how blinded the Tesla fanatics are (including CR) around these flawed vehicles Impressed with the Tesla DC charging network? Aren't regular trips to the Tesla DC Superchargers supposed to shorten the life of your batteries, and shorten the range over time? I would love to see CR dedicate an entire episode to the new 2021 Toyota Mirai: 402 mile range, 5 min fill up, full size sedan, Toyota quality and reliability Hydrogen FCEVs are the future of commercial vehicles, trains, buses, and at scale (as we go from 10 mm light vehicles to 50+ mm light vehicles on the road globally) is the solution for light vehicles, too, as the overall infrastructure costs are much lower Comment from : David Strong

You had glossed over problems with the electric drive What are those problems? This is the first time I am hearing about drive train issues with the model Y I subscribe to your on line information and cannot find any mention of electric drive issues It fact you rated the drive train 5/5 Please don’t post false information unless you can back it up! Comment from : Tom Frenza

You can easily detect the bias when they answer questions They seem to light up when they are about to go down a negative rabbit hole If this was a game of poker - they would have lost the kid's college funds by now It's so funny that CR bashes the fastest, most economical, most ecological, most technological, and safest vehicles ever produced Comment from : Brad

My 13 year old knows more about Tesla than these three put together Comment from : Brad

We want a Tesla but living at high altitude (9100ft) and the reliability issues are keeping us from pulling the trigger No uber up herebrAny one here have any experience with Tesla at high altitude? Comment from : Roberto Lopesino

Long time supporter of CR This is the most well balanced review of a vehicle that I have watched I admire the cult like following that Tesla has created Unfortunately the cult members have lost the ability to be objective All cars are a collection of trade offs and compromises I do not need more marketing hype I was looking for the good, the bad and the ugly You provided the information I want / need to help me make a better decision Thank you for the work you do Comment from : Robert Shaver

Got my Model Y in June 2020 The VIN number is in the low 9000 Had minor panel gap issues and were quickly resolved using mobile service without going to the dealer I owned Lexus (Hybrid), BMW, Acura in the past Tesla Model Y is the best car I ever owned Performance, Auto-Pilot, Over-the-air update, mobile service, remote control of car (dog mode), supercharge network are the positive experiences It is absolutely fun to drive the Model Y! I made several 500+ mile road trips with Model Y without any issues Love the supercharge stations Long trip become so much easier and less stressful with Tesla Model Y Comment from : Henry Shen

I want to get a Model Y but I want to wait until they put 4680s in them I didn’t yet find any reliable info on when Tesla is going to update Y with 4680 Comment from : MrKrazyKK

Best real Full Self Drive is in Beta but its amazing whats coming I agree they should have just called current system Tesla Driver Assist and not FSD but when FSD does come out of Beta it will blow your mind Comment from : MrExocomp

Do not buy a Toyota! Tesla is way better Toyota also have problems In 2016: "Toyota Recalling 337 Million Vehicles Over Two Defects" Comment from : Ronnie

I can't wait for my Model Y from Berlin I test drove a model 3 once and was sold Made the Model Y choice due to 3 kids and a dog Pre-ordered early with the full Monty Comment from : Christian S

I think Tesla is bleeding money in production costs, profits are non existent except for selling emissions credits to rival car makers which equates to $428 million, or 7 of the company's revenuebrI can't see updates like a HUD, blind spot monitoring, adaptive dampers or a drivers binnacle happening any time soon Although these measures would sell more cars, I believe profits are not there for this, but rather for more expansion to try and make profits in production and batteries which is spreading Tesla thin Before all of this expansion, I believe the cars themselves should be improved in all of the areas discussed to make them a better value proposition in fit, finish and reliability to the customers who have paid a lot of money for these expensive cars Comment from : Hadtobe

these guys are just full of bs They compare the auto pilot to an add on crappy self driving toy attached to a toyota and quicly concluded that the auto piilot is no good without giving any scientific factsThey keep bitching about the controls in the center console while they already have the model 3 These CR old guys are just way behind the technology adjustability And at the end they recommended either the Audi or the Toyota suv prime as the alternatives These guys are just unbelievable Comment from : Dan vo

I can't beleive you would recommend the Rav4 prime knowing full well they are looking for an electric and that the waiting list for the Rav4 prime is stupid long Comment from : Albert

90 of this i disagree with Comment from : stuart blackwood

There are aftermarket huds Comment from : Boots Whitlock

Pretty fair assessment until they got into Auto Pilot They are so far off It isn't a rocket science? I think it is otherwise everyone would have it And show me a $1,000 system that can beat Tesla's So it can change lanes / change highways / watch for deers and go around / brake for them At least be honest Comment from : Moving On

I love the big screen, and find it takes me no longer to look down and to the right as it does looking down Getting rid of the cluster or instruments frees up space so you can watch the road And the junk they put on those clusterswho needs to see all that junk? You need speed (top left of the screen now) and any warnings (audio) You need not even touch the screen while driving Want to turn on the wipers, press the right steering wheel button and say "turn on wipers" No need to take your eyes off the road or fumble with a control This is the future, so use it Comment from : Mark Lefler

I have a 50k vin MY with a few early issues, but been rather happy overall, 9k miles so farbr One thing I will note is that the range numbers really never add up My lifetime usage is right at the EPA combined rating, but never seen anything indicating percentage or a full drive length that the car is remotely capable of 300+ mile range 250 is easy enough 250 is still enough, and I've only seen 10-20 loss going from near 70F to 32F driving, which is greatbrBut most importantly, the math just doesn't add up Comment from : Anthony Schroeder

Just put on the cameras when driving You have no blind spots Comment from : 10melvis

This would be the first time I have ever heard a Tesla Model Y likened to a Porsche Boxster Comment from : The Wright Stuff

Had a Model 3 for two years and I would not spend $1 on a HUD Comment from : John Carpenter

Why not suggest the VW ID4 as alternative? Or Mustang Mach-E? Comment from : Chris L

USE THE VOICE COMMANDS!!!! Comment from : Christopher Rasmussen

I have had my Model Y since April No fit and finish issues, no reliability issues Love it Fantastic car Comment from : Chris L

CR has been criticizing Tesla’s workspending lots of time NOT appreciating model Y in this video brbrModel Y is not perfect with room for improvement for sure, but also think what most of the ICEs can and can not achieve, for god’s sake Comment from : CF

For those of you who don't want to spend almost 27 min, here is the short summary: 3 semi-old guys that still don't understand the ONLY THING that matters: the pace of innovation Constantly assuming that status quo will remain status quo until the next re-fresh is coming 1-2 years down the road from the OEM To CR: I like your content (sorry for calling you semi-old, but you get the point), you really need to get your heads out the old way of thinking Otherwise you will end up just like the rest of the ICE industry Comment from : Christoffer Bløndal Bengtsson

This video is a waste of time Recommends an etron than a tesla ?! This people are still stuck in the ice age!!! Comment from : carlonathaniel

1 If you have FSD compare it to the comet system Not the old auto-pilot br2 Tesla improves their quality month by month That is something to note Comment from : P M

Tesla give us: br1 A heads up display Give people what they want, or the competition will Don’t be like Applebr2 Adaptive suspension for the stiff ride - can be an optional extrabr3 More physical buttons No explanation requiredbrbrUnfortunately there are compromises with this car Nio, xpeng etc will see this and will give people these simple features, no compromises You shouldn’t have to compromise on these things Comment from : P M

There is a button for the wipers Are you guys even testing this thing? Press the button and the wiper menu comes up Comment from : Cesar Trujillo

Since they are so determined to stay away from manual switches and dials, I'm surprised that they haven't gone to voice commands for some of the more basic, daily used chores and features Comment from : Mark Villano

Picture someone who has only owned old flip phones and has done hundreds of reviews on flip phones Now, give them an Iphone for a couple of days and have them review it It would be similar to this review as they wouldn't fully understand how best to use the tech Additionally, if you go out of your way to look at Iphone complaints and concerns, you could easily find thousands of them, doesn't mean the overall phone is bad As a Model Y owner, I can attest to the fact that this is not a fair review of the vehicle and the vast, vast majority of Model Y owners are EXTREMELY satisfied I would suggest in the future that they avail themselves of an actual experienced owner Comment from : flybuddy

This video is not going to age well Recent months quality issues have mostly been resolved I have not seen any significant complaints on Twitter for at least 2 months As for FSD, did any of you seen of the new true #FSDBeta videos? It’s mind boggling I’m sure it’s not going to be perfect on the first day but it’s getting very close and would be a game changer in 2021 3rd - who cares about the mirrors and such You set it up one, in your parking spot and save it in a profile It’s tired to your phone so you never have to touch it As for blind spot - as far as I know Tesla is the only car that would actively ensure you don’t bump into other cars It literally pushes you away if you’re about to hit someone And blind spot indicators are a poor excuse for not turning your head anyhow I’ve had blind spot assist before and really don’t miss it It was never really helpful Finally, the best metric in my opinion is customer satisfaction and both the 3 and the Y get the best customer satisfaction in the market So even if some have some issues, those are resolved by Tesla and the quality, ride and design of the car sure seems to make a LOT of people happy Actually, most of the people who complain about Tesla are people who never owned one Comment from : Rani G

Been driving a Tesla Model 3 for 2 1/2 years with Autopilot and Full Self Driving I've never had the car not stop at a stop light or stop sign when it was supposed to Comment from : David Wroth

At 19:00 Tesla quality is addressed! Comment from : Norm T

This video was disappointing And largely potentially misleading Comment from : Crunkk_Clemente

My autopilot has never not stopped at a stop sign, traffic light, or for another car These people are straight up lying about autopilot Comment from : Joolz Vega

Michael: why do you say hit the gas pedal? Ha Ha Comment from : Milton Piontkowski

I have a problem with Uber credits also I cancelled my service appointment twice for my Model Y, because they offered me Uber credits Yes my car was very reliable though I measure my reliability on whether I turn the car on, does it drive I can’t go backwards to other cars, I play solitaire in my Tesla for crying out loud Comment from : Eyes

I live in the desert South-West and the summertime temperatures usually hover around 115 deg F outside, and the temperature inside a closed up car is unbelieve able I have concerns that the monitor inside would die quite quickly from the heat Heat is the enemy of electronics, and where I live, humans also Comment from : T Thinker

The CR report on Autopilot was a joke Even Commaai, which is super cool, the founder himself will tell you they can't compete The testing metrics were a joke You are reviewing for the consumer that buy the car, not trying to be an activist for people who don't own the product To follow your logic to it's logical end, you should de-rate all cars that weigh more than a compact car since it's "more dangerous" than lighter cars in accidents Comment from : Greg B

lol, DMV says you should look over shoulders while changing lanes and this guy is looking at his mirror hahaha Comment from : loopBloke

I wouldn’t buy one let alone 2 Comment from : Rocky Staatz

Hi CR, I know this is old news but I would just like to know what CR did to avoid CR's dishonest testing like what happened with Suzuki Samurai I just learned about this and I would like to still trust CR Comment from : sabrejoey

Wiper: use voice commandbrMirrors: you adjust once Forget about itbrMany other things ,voice commandbrFull self driving is onething autonomous, is another thing Comment from : yinyang

Disappointing Comment from : Ali Khajuee

18:30 - true Tesla's blind spot warning system is non-existent Are there manufacturers have been doing a better job of that for many years now But, again, just like many other things in this video soon enough it will be entirely irrelevant because the driver won't need to be warned of anything Also, I wonder if the vehicle is aware of those things now and just doesn't have a good way of communicating that to the vehicle operator I mean, with cameras going 360° around the car among other sensors as well, it seems like the vehicle must be aware of vehicles around it at every angle not sure why Tesla hasn't done a better job of incorporating a blind spot warning indicator to the vehicle occupant but hopefully it will go the way of the heads up display and not be relevant and just a year or two Comment from : Aaron Bounds

15:32 - "you have to watch the car" Ah, yeah, everybody should be paying attention all of the time when they are driving, any car Because you have to continue to pay attention while you're driving in a Tesla does not mean that it is somehow more dangerous or worse than any other vehicle where you have to continue to pay attention and it has none or some of the same safety features O M G Comment from : Aaron Bounds

15:16 - How much time do you folks have in the seat using this vehicle? The way you are talking makes it seem like these features are dangerous and rarely work What's dangerous is the 10 or 20 of worst drivers we have driving around 24/7 on our roads These folks cause us a disproportionately large societal burden in terms of damage to property and loss of life Those folks who are choosing to drive distracted and drive under the influence of anything and those who go on methamphetamine fueled killing sprees racing their cars around (okay fine, that one is kind of rare but not for a paramedic who sees these things on a somewhat regular basis) are way more of a threat to property and life than Tesla's autopilot system and it's full self-driving features that are currently in beta mode If they are released in beta mode, as you must well know, there is lots of legalese that goes into making people aware that these things are in fact beta mode and not 100 reliable still, the data shows that folks who are using these features are far less likely to get into a crash than those who are not so, yes, it is true that they are not 100 done yet but they are getting better just about every day and it seems to be that we are highlighting the fact that they are beta and not perfect Duh We all know that Why don't you flip sides a little bit on that and tell us how much safer we all are because these features exist and continue to improve on a regular basis Comment from : Aaron Bounds

14:32 - holy cow, so wrong You're making it seem like most of the time those features do not work when in fact reality is the opposite Why are you doing this? Comment from : Aaron Bounds

14:12 - agreed, in part about the larger idea of FSD, but still wrong in one key area: the data clearly shows that people who use autopilot and more advanced FSD-like features are many times less likely to get into a wreck than those who do not use the features or those who are in a vehicle who do not have those features This is publicized and commonly available data Please, be aware of these simple things before speaking Comment from : Aaron Bounds

Head up display 🤦‍♂️ I suppose it's not wrong to want it but as has been the case for several years now, Tesla is beyond the head up display It is a incidental base of technology that adds vehicle cost and will not provide any useful data in the long term That's not to say that people couldn't get an aftermarket one or whatever people do if they really wanted one but it will be completely irrelevant in the relatively near future Comment from : Aaron Bounds

My understanding is that the $7-10,000 "full self-driving" charge is to unlock what's already therebrWhy so expensive?brTo pay for their liability coverage when they inevitably get sued for accidents Comment from : David M

Not sure about your neighborhood, but a Walmart parking lot is a great place to be to witness atrocities of humanity, directly or indirectly, so, yeah, for all of the intelligent folks at Porsche, they missed the social cues on that one Comment from : Aaron Bounds

5:02 - It is clear that a person asking the question about getting up to 80 to 100 charge either isn't a Tesla user or is asking the question from a viewpoint of people who just don't understand Going between superchargers on a road trip does not mean you're charging to 80 to 100 every time What it means is you charge with enough energy to get yourself to the next charger or a charger that is within your range or comfort zone with the amount of buffer that you feel comfortable having That is very much different from charging to 80 - 100 This is common knowledge among people who use the supercharger network It may well be the case that it just so happens that a charge of 80-100 is required to get to the next supercharger for that particular leg of that particular journey but it is highly unlikely and diminishes the entire conversation It may be that the person needs to charge up to 50, 60, 70, and everybody in the know realizes that that's artificially excuse the charging times Hate to sound like a ranting Tesla fanboy here but you folks clearly aren't asking the right questions, still That's simply not how the cars are used It makes total sense that you would think that coming from a fossil fuel powered pump filling background, as we all do, but the bias on this question is mind-bogglingly obnoxious Comment from : Aaron Bounds

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