Title | : | 1893-s Morgan Dollar in a PCGS Holder - Counterfeit Detection - Coin Talk in 4K |
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Why didn't you just weigh them? You can find the fake easily Even the best forgers can make it look good and weigh Weight is always off, I haven't found one yet Comment from : Butter |
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My approach to buying coins is much different these days I've been telling people that fake slabbed coins are out there, thank you for this video I prefer to buy from credible dealers, and still do my own tests Weight specs, mint mark locations and other information is easily accessible and can weed out fakes People are less likely to inspect slabbed coins, unfortunately, and scammers know this Had to return a counterfeit Morgan Silver Dollar that was sold to me on eBay, it was 3 full grams underweight Looked through the seller feedback, he sold an identical fake to someone else and they left positive feedback! People need to do their research before investing in coins, pick a type, get familiar, then broaden Comment from : guy |
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Thanks for the lesson As a novice who just inherited my late FiL's collection, I was ecstatic to find a 1847 CC Seated Liberty in his collection (I had read CC's are rare & generaly worth more) but was wondering why I couldn't find any info on it (Red Book or www) until I read up on the CC Mint & the Motto above the Eagle That's when I learned about counterfeits! Needless to say I was a sad boy 😕 Comment from : DanoFireMano |
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Was the seller from Jacksonville fla?brThe old grandfather story!brLiars everywhere brJesus Christ will soon judge the brUngodly Comment from : Former5-0Trust JesusChrist! |
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Ya there’s no way that is AU 50 grade Mines MS63 an far better looking then both Comment from : Jared White |
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@Larry Stendebach Does that counterfeit coin have any value? Comment from : Jeff Flanagan |
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My question is,who would buy a rare coin, now that they are making counterfeit coins with PLASTIC NGC and PCGS cases attached Time for a new hobby, sorry to say!NEW CHINA COUNTERFEITS are just about undetectable!Even have the proper contents of metal No more 18K $20 gold pieces! Comment from : Roy Rauch |
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My question is "Who in the heck has the ability to even STRIKE a coin as close as this is????" Comment from : Nevets Legasi |
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First thing I noticed was how cloudy the fake slab is Comment from : Tyrel |
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Avilable call me 9008239128 Comment from : Prashant Patil |
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What did it weigh? Comment from : Dennis Hinckley |
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Hi I have one dallar coin Morgan silver 1888 o how much is this Comment from : Tales Zingapan |
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1893 morgan dollar s Comment from : Marwin Intal |
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My mother bought us kids Morgan kits 5 of them in a kit from the MINT And I was wondering if they are worth anything they are in a blue open valore kit And I was wondering what they are worth please comment back thank you so very much if you take the time out to answer me Comment from : Martin Neps |
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I posted a video to VT Bay, a buying/selling site here in Bulgaria because of the increasing number of people trying to sell coind, including Morgan Silver Dollars If you sre interested it is on Youtube PENSIONER PREPPER Halloween Horror StorybrI was able to make the video because of what I learned upon sites like yours I had prchased some Morgans, as well as a trade dollar, and had learned they where all fakes Comment from : khankrum1 |
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What efforts are being made to find the crooks making these fake coins in fake holders ? Comment from : Dixon Diaz |
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I'm dizzy Comment from : Michael Cheeto |
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This reinforces a good point: know what you're buying Knowledge is power Comment from : 8avexp |
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So, not only is the coin counterfeit , the holder and the hologram are also? Comment from : William Burdon |
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my dad bought about 8 morgans counterfeit for 180 dollars Comment from : Frizzy |
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This should be a really easy detection Silver doesn’t tarnish to a brown/gold color The one on the right is clearly a bronze/silver mixture Silver tarnishes a deep black grey color Comment from : Sam Gardner |
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i had to stop watching the camera work made me dizzy i could not focus on any of the areas of the fake to recognize it Comment from : Ronald Siegrist |
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Poor quality holder, artificial patina, substandard printing, suspect die cracks, scratches, it all adds up to fake! Thanks for the counterfeit detection tutorial ! Comment from : R Troyer |
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Actually, undergrading a counterfeit would make it less likely to get tight scrutiny Someone who sees say an MS-64 graded MS-62 is far more likely to quickly buy it than if they are scrutinizing a properly graded coin and wondering if that PCGS MS-64 isn't an overgraded MS-63 Comment from : Silvadel Shaladin |
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The color is way off Comment from : Sara Helton |
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That's why I am watching music videos from now on,I tried of all the videos of this is a fake that's fake I am done watching all the negative It's getting like watching the news on tv Comment from : Mark Belanger |
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Camera Way 2 much moving Comment from : Deann Dubois |
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150 likes and subscription !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! See my konal !!!!!!!!!!! Subscribe 👍🔔 Comment from : RARE COINS |
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The nose Comment from : onceANexile |
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I give opportunity to people like you who don’t get to hear from the dealers on what everybody is buying in the gold/silver market (we give them out lower than the market price) REPLY with your number & I can give you insight on what you should be doing!!! Comment from : Bryant Lucas |
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Thanks for THIS video I bought an 1893-S a couple of years ago Thought it was Real of Course Took it to a Coin shop Man said it was a Fake I still have it What would you recommend ? If I send it off for Grading and it is indeed a Fake, will they confiscate it ? Comment from : Darren A |
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LET ME KNOW WHO YOU PERCHASED THESE FAKES FROM I AM COMPILING A BLACK LIST OF THEAVES MAYBY I CAN GET THE FBI TO FIANLLY LOOK INTO THIS COUNTERFITTERS AND CONVECT COUNTERFITTING IS A FEDRAL OFFENCE Comment from : ECTOGEOS ZETHIP |
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Is that a kingdom hearts song in the background? Comment from : Author Unknown |
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The fake one also had a copper tint look to it Comment from : Alf a |
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The nose on the counterfeit looked weird It's not as delicate as the real one Comment from : George Macias |
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So watch out for yellow fakes Comment from : dave Davidh |
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Poor fake cheap $20 from China Now the $400 plus high end fakes are a different thing altogether I bet if you scan this cheep one its not even silver of about 30 the good ones are made from a melted common date Morgan Don't get me started on the the high end fake NGC double eaglesbrDid you know that 92 of all the gold coins and bars on ebay are fake? Some are poor and can to seen in the pictures, again the high end tungsten filled can only be found out with a scanner Comment from : Garry Croft |
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where was the counterfeit purchased ? Comment from : rayman46 |
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Too much caffeine? Hold still please! Comment from : David Ellsworth |
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I have one dollar silver 1878 9613535769 Comment from : Mouhamad Ali |
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The novice in this market is dead meat The counterfeiters are getting very good especially with the new technology A master counterfeiter can do a very good job even fulling the experts If you realize how far down in detail one has to examine to determine authenticity then you realize the counterfeiting is getting to be a real problem caveat emptor !!!! Comment from : Dr David Kaplan |
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Great vid Very knowledgeable One suggestion I wanted to share with you If you continue making videos find another word to subsitute for Uhhhnot to be rude because I couldnt do what you do however the constant Uhhhs were almost enough to change the video within the first minute Comment from : Charles Holt |
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The mouth on the Morgan is totally different Comment from : Brad Moberly |
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Very well presented video Of course when building a slabbed collection, one does not have a legit coin on hand to compare the coin in question to Comment from : Haze Gray |
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WHAT BULLSHIT HE GOT IT FROM HIS GRAND FATHER LMFWAO THE POS BOUGHT IT OFF EBAY AND PUT IT IN A CONTAINER SLAB Comment from : J |
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Not all PCGS holders are clear, Counterfeiters realize their mistakes from videos like this one, they are always trying to make them harder to spot Comment from : Leo Guy |
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01/22/2019 - Hey, nice video! I inquired on another channel just a couple of days ago whether/if there were any bfake/b PCGS coins, since I recently purchased 4 Morgans through APMEX I don't expect any bfakes/b but info is info Good vid'yo Comment from : The Sun Just Shined |
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The MOST obvious thing, that you didn't mention, was the fact that the holder was broken! Comment from : Jack |
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I could not stand to watch your video with that stupid music playing Comment from : jeffreys finds |
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I could tell instantly the fake one Comment from : Emil Phoryew |
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Immediately when he started the video I said the one on the right is fake there were multiple give aways Comment from : Nick Gaddini |
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I would like to have seen the reverse of the fake The shoe polish halo around the rim and stars is the number one tell When made they don't look anywhere near real and thus need to be artificially aged and this is the look they get Quite uncommon to get a real Morgan with that halo and shoe polish look This dollar was made in past year or so and sold on Aliexpress (might be able to get one yet) Alibaba also has a ton of fakes and in PCGS slabs to boot Camera shake and not allowing the camera to focus was a hard to watch issue Comment from : bob lindstrom |
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Many thanks! As a newbie to online collecting, this was great to learn What about all the "monster rainbow toning" of Morgans? Is this real toning? Comment from : Dr Herb |
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The patina on the fake is the 1St giveawaysilver doesn't discolor like that It gets darker grey then black Someone varnished this fake with something to make it look old! Comment from : cosbornejr1 |
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Excellent content! Comment from : Caino the Concerned Citizen |
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i have 1776 is twenty D Comment from : Wiraphan Ray |
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I'll never be duped with an 1893S ever! Thanks for sharing!! Comment from : Facts Dont Matter |
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Great information But you need to put the camera on a tripod I had motion sickness by the end of the video :-) Comment from : R KFALL |
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What's about the weight of the Coin -should be 267 g? Comment from : Edward j j |
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I’m your 1000th subscriber!!! Comment from : Joshua Chambers |
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We should start exporting counterfeit pandas Comment from : Fallschirmjaegermeister |
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What's dumb is that's a key date and high grade coin, so of course anyone buying it should do their due diligence and check the serial number and online report of that graded coin for any inconsistencies And not sure why they thought dying it in tea or whatever would make me t more believable Probably just to help distract from all the forgery identifiers Comment from : Prepared Survivalist |
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Beautiful Morgan Dollar! Comment from : TKA |
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Nice Chinese counterfeit, and a good video There is also a 'fake gallery' at VAMWorld for the 1893S Morgan, with even more info Some 1890's were used, with altered dates brbr wwwvamworldcom/1893-S20Fake20Gallery Comment from : Gator Sailor |
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Did it stick to a magnet? Comment from : David Tilley |
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First thing I noticed was the crack in the case Comment from : theyuha |
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You need a camera holder Comment from : Brian Forbes |
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This is why I highly prefer error coins of the modern era They're made from much harder alloys which aren't nearly as easily damaged nor are they as profitable to "shave" corners off of Then there's the situation with how many of the American Coin Dies ended up in the hands of nefarious folksthis sort've thing happened well into the 40's (For anybody who doesn't know the story of Henning) and is also why the Chinese Counterfeiters are still making precisely stamped, double-strike Wheatback Cents to this day brbrSadlyvery few people know that the oldest of the grading services is barely 30 years old As someone who's been collecting coins for that long I'm a bit perturbed by how many people refuse to buy a "non-verified" coin, but will buy a PCGS slabbed coin sight-unseen Plastic and Paper are easily counterfeited in comparison to a coinas it doesn't require proprietary dies; much less in the same condition as X year during Y die stage Comment from : Dusty Nonya |
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what number do I call to get one Comment from : Azavion Henley |
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china Comment from : coffeefish |
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Alll i got was dizzy watching this Comment from : Michael Trucking Gray |
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You should give it to me I can sell it Comment from : Clay Scott |
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I BOUGHT A 1881cc FOR 4000 HOW CAN I TELL IF THIS COIN IS REAL? AT THE TIME OF PURCHASE I DID NOT FEEL THE SELLER WAS AWARE OF WHAT HE WAS SELLINGIT IS IN A 2X2 CARDBOARD HOLDER WITH VG ON THE FLAT TOP CORNER VERY DIRTY HOWEVER Comment from : Pete Deiler |
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I wonder what they make the fakes out of Comment from : Lickity Split |
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Can you take out the coin and test it? Comment from : The 100 Staight Gender Guy |
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also have you ever seen a 1857 large cent??i also have that trying to google but not learning much on it Comment from : Roger Damron |
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i am not educated in this very well at all would you consider just looking at a few pics? when you can spare a moment Comment from : Roger Damron |
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HI I have watched numerous videos of yours i need help could i please send you pictures of an 1893 s morgan and also an 1899 they have been in my family very long time i live in a VERY rural area of WV and no where to check , they are not in cases and have been circulated a lot but is legible PLEASE if you have time i need your PROFESSIONAL opinion Comment from : Roger Damron |
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i have one its fake i bought it here in macau china Mop15brmorgan dollar Comment from : Irving Tv |
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Thanks Comment from : Lionel Ducote |
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So how was this coin made? Recently? Comment from : Kef103 |
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ihave 1 morgan 1885 Comment from : julio martinez |
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the fake looks rusty Comment from : Nickel Hunter |
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For any PCGS coin, just use the pcgs website verify page or use the PCGS iPhone or Android app: PCGS Cert VerificationbrScan the bar code of the fake coin in the video and it shows that this is for a different coinbrFor really rare coins, PCGS often has photos of the real coin as well Comment from : Protect and Build Your Business |
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There is also a greater space between the 3 and the star next to it on the counterfeit Comment from : Mike L |
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wow, I would have never been able to figure that out I am getting ready to add a video of some of my morgans and I am a little worried now Great information, I subbed :) Comment from : Silver Gator |
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can you cut out the background music, it is so annoying and sleepy Comment from : BSD |
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Great video Thank you for sharing your collection and knowledge Comment from : Mike Wood |
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interesting also do you know by chance what the fake one is made out of like is it still silver and could be melted down at least or no Comment from : Teddy Giovanini |
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Fuck China,everything from China is fake Comment from : John Doe |
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que precio tienen un morgan dolar del año 1883 don ya que melo venden por eso nesecito saber Comment from : Berenice Carpio |
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Great video thanks for sharing brbrThe biggest give away is the cracked case Never buy a coin that has a cracked case Easy decision Comment from : Audrey |
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Thanks for the video I'm buying more slabbed Morgans now and it's scary to know there could be fake slabbed Morgans out there Comment from : Carlos Rull |
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I have 1896 Morgan but its not silver its gold Comment from : Ronel Sabordo |
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what is the music? it's nice Comment from : Luis Sauceda |
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