Title | : | Fake US Trade Dollar Purchased Online. COINHELPU featured coin! |
Lasting | : | 22.12 |
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Views | : | 16 rb |
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Good idea to do this and thanks for the mentions, much appreciated!! Great job on the video and testing and I don't mind the mangling at all, it's fake and deserved it! Comment from : CoinHELPu |
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I have koins us trade dollar 1876,1877 Comment from : Kie Shilfy |
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i have trade dollar 1872 how to sell sir Comment from : Arnel Avanzado |
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Mình cũng muốn biết , họ làm giả để làm gì Họ làm với số lượng lớn!? Comment from : Hoang Nguyen ngoc |
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I hape coin trade dollar 420 - 1874 how much Do you coin Comment from : Mohamad Toher |
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mine says 'IN GOP WE TRUST' and the sash in her hand saysbr'LUBERT' i like it though, i think it's funny Comment from : asshoIe ©94 |
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السلام عليكم ورحمة الله تعالى عندي مثلها إصدار سنة1797 Comment from : Lhassan Mafdi |
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Good idea Comment from : Sanjay yadav Yadav |
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LMAO, both trade dollars were genuine He destroyed a real trade dollar He realized it after he cut it open and saw silver inside 😂 Comment from : joshua bitz |
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Trade dollar 1873-s saya adanamun bukan perak saat saya bersihkan berwarna kekuningan kilau biru apakah koin itu masih asli atau palsu trimakasih Comment from : Muchtar Muchtar |
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Watching full your beautiful video I have also a Trade dollar 1875 from Philippines Comment from : Welmar Saycon Vlogs |
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Good chance that is a few cents worth of molybdenum, an obscure industrial metal usually associated with resisting high temperatures It is silver colored and just a tiny bit less dense than silver for the diameter and weight (like gold-plated tungsten counterfeits of gold coins) It's also toxic so I hope you didn't eat the fake coin later Comment from : TheGroovyJones |
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Real silver with the ring test seems to carry the tone longer and louder Comment from : Ron Pettrey |
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sir I have usa trade dollar 420 gaints900 gine 1876 how I can sell it plz advise personally tnx Comment from : Alfi Sujan |
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Does anyone know if an 1882 with a sitting lady liberty have a cc on it? Comment from : bgood |
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Amazing! Thanks a lot for the detailed tests and explanation! It's really well faked and difficult to spot Comment from : Precious Coin Tester |
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I have one coins trade dullar 1876 buying this coins Comment from : Ben Gumaga |
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Hi Speg, German Silver, used for ornamentation of Long Rifles and other fine firearms It looks just like Silver and works the same, that explains the look and malleability Comment from : Doug Boehm |
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Has anyone ever found silver that doesn't ring? I have a 1oz bar that passes weight, dimensions, slide test, and even sigma even though it is close to outside the brackets Yet it just does not ring I cut it in half and did a acid test on it and it checked out Ive been trying to find a answer to this for over a year and am yet to get a satisfactory answer Anyone ever run into this? Comment from : Salt Shaker E Coast division |
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I would be interested in knowing what the fake is actually made out of Comment from : David Tweeddale |
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Man o man You AND Daniel? Two of my favorite coin guys (you can also throw in THE coin Guy) ive learned so much in the passed 10 months between stacking and just numismatics G-d bless ya both! Keep up the amazing and informative work you two! Comment from : comando1911 |
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Q; If I was going to counterfeit a silver coin to try and get a high numismatic price for it, why wouldn’t I just use real silver? $25-35 worth of silver to achieve possibly hundreds in numismatic value Sounds much easier as well Comment from : Tangogulf3 |
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Good day Speg, quick question on paying a " premium " on silver How much is too much? Recently I came across a 2oz silver Morgan round I have 40+ Morgan's in my collection and would love to add a silver round The premium is almost 2/3 of what silvef is going for now I just checked before asking and it is going for 2688 an ounce The round is selling for 9598 I understand that paying a premium is guaranteed Keep up the great videos I may have a China coin for you to destroy in the future as well It is a 1926 (1500 anniversary of the Declaration of Independence) I believe it is called a Semisesquencial Thank you, from Ocala area Comment from : Edward Austin |
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Interesting! Comment from : Silver to burn |
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I think it's nickel with some silver in it Comment from : Cal kid |
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The coin is made out of Potin Copper and zinc, cut with lead to match the weight Been used for 1000 years Comment from : Dad Bombs |
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Please get it tested and help us all out Comment from : THEDRAGONBOOSTER8 |
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Всё правильно, таких фейковых монет много, в основном их производят в Китае! Comment from : Сергей Масленников |
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whoa! Comment from : Dj Lunchmeat |
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I think it might be a Lead and silver alloy which makes sense cuz lead does have a higher resist resistivity level and a little bit of silver with lead would give the lead a little more hardness Comment from : Daniel Bruce |
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I wonder how different the ping test would look on a spectrum analyzer app EDIT: Just checked, there is a tone and a roughly 2x pitch overtone The overtone dies out quickly in the fake and sustains and is louder with the silver EDIT: Try Spectrogram, there is an even higher overtone 20 kHz that is NOT there with the fakebrbrOf course the silver seems to be higher pitched, but that could change depending on size and shape and what the fake is made out of Comment from : mikebell2112 |
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l 一have -ONE 1984 Comment from : Kapple K |
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I need one of those TDS meters for my liberal neighbors Comment from : Freedom Fighter |
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I bought 3 at a local auction, advertised as fake What is melt value, or should I keep them as an oddity? Comment from : TheJacob1971 |
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Very interesting Comment from : Davis Wall |
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I had a fake one of those too Comment from : Mental Metalist |
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"eddy current" is the cool affect where it looks like its sliding through molasses Comment from : rAgtAg Stacking |
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What's the resistivity of the real trade dollar? The 999 at 171 is off a bit though from 159? What's the temperature of where you were at? Comment from : googloodo |
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8:56 Silver bells, Silver bell, It's Christmas Time in the city Comment from : Antonius Britannia |
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Turn the fake Trade Dollar into a "potty" dollar Comment from : Antonius Britannia |
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wow Comment from : Jazz chua /coin collector 7809 |
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That’s a really good fake Comment from : silver watcher |
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Big fan of Daniel, big fan of “Coin Guy,”, big fan of Speg! Comment from : James Pass |
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as a sound guy, the real silver coin had a lower frequency ping than the fake, indicating the real one to be a denser metal Comment from : James Pass |
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i have 2 from ebaygot my money back and got to keep the coins !! Comment from : Simply Jef |
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Crazy and scary to see such a deceptive fake!🔥🔥🔥 Comment from : Fiat Destroyer |
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Great video Lots of info Love trade dollars But you really have to be diligent when purchasing them Comment from : Eric Alexander |
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Speg, I am thinking an alloy of Tin, Lead and Silver Like a modified Pewter Pewter being poor mans silver With the dimensions and mass (weight) about correct, the alloy is real close to 90 silver and silver colored We all need to be very careful where we buy expensive coins, lots of new and years old fakes out there I’ll stick with my constitutional silver stacking My quarters are too cheep to fake, but, when silver hits $100, Chinese fakes may flood into the markets Comment from : Ben Franklin |
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Rims are different on the fake Comment from : David Garrison |
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Plot twist: The center of the coin is filled with Palladium Comment from : J J |
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Probably a ZN/NI alloy Comment from : Craig Stone |
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Go to 14:20 and look at the width of the motto "United States of America" The first S is roughly lined up, but the first A in America starts much sooner in the fake coin I would think another test would be to just get an old school 99 cent plastic protractor to see the angle from the center of the coin You could literally compare it to a photo in the redbook! Comment from : Bill Bryant |
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You actually don't need a caliper to measure most old US coins, you just need to align it with the pictures in the red book Comment from : Hezezilla |
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As always, a great video Speg! When you were pinging the coins, I thought I was watching Jaws! Comment from : coinz900 |
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The last test was the best Comment from : Timothy Loyd |
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Pretty much zero luster gave it away for me but still that's a good fake Plenty of trade dollars out there look almost exactly like that Yikes It would be valuable if you were playing the chimes with your coins because you'd have another note to play It'd be interesting to melt it down, separate the metals out and find out exactly how much silver is actually in there Comment from : seam |
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Real nice video, Jesse Was hoping you would drill it, as someone might like it for wearing No biggy JJ Comment from : john jacobs |
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A very comprehensive study to determine fakes that aren't quite as easy to pick apart, especially if they are made of silver or similar metal Great tip on the measurement mode on the verifier! Comment from : SalivateMetal |
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Would've liked to see a ping test with phone app Comment from : Delta_Blues |
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Great video I could definitely hear the difference in the ping test The fake one had a higher pitch The speed of the magnet slide test was also noticeable The magnet slid faster on the fake one BTW, there is a guy on eBay who sells rare earth magnet slides, which allow you to slide the entire coin down a ramp of rare earth magnets So, you are sliding the coin across multiple magnets, instead of sliding a tiny magnet across the coin Works really well, but not as easy to carry in your pocket, obviously Comment from : Douglas Williams |
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I think the mystery metal is pewter but that is just a guess Comment from : Brad W |
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the fake metal could be cadmium or tin Comment from : Jim Dorsey |
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Canadian DATELINE told me that the water filtration system is a total SCAM! Lol 😂 Comment from : Chrisinsocal |
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If this was another non fake video I was going to scream 😂😂😂 Comment from : Chrisinsocal |
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Perhaps tungsten Comment from : Super Villain |
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Thanks for the education! These videos help our community immensely Comment from : Scott |
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Dang I been stacking for a while Would never caught that Is there that much fake out there? I’m a bit shaky now Comment from : anthony decapio |
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Dude at first it sounded like he sold you a fake as real, Comment from : Vernon Decker |
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The slow slide of the magnetic is a give away, real Comment from : greg gelato |
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EBay should also cover the cost as this was not what was ordered Comment from : T Ho |
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I watch you and Daniel faithfully I've done business with Daniel too and he is a great guy Comment from : John Wachter |
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Been following Daniel for quite awhile, decent prices on his web site Comment from : greg gelato |
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You can definitely tell the difference between cast coins and ones punched from a actual die Comment from : Sindelicious |
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Maybe silver with nickel/manganese? That's all I can think of metal-wise Comment from : West Point Fever |
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An act of war! Comment from : John Reihm |
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I thought dan sold you a fake trade dollar as a real one, I was actually watching his video and immediately clicked on this one Comment from : Antek |
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Dam I thought the fake was the all black one? Comment from : METALMAN4Wii |
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A specific gravity test can be done at home That will tell you what it's made of Also to add to what Speg had mentioned about this potentially being harmful If you immediately place the coin in acetone it will displace the contaminates from the water Still not 100 safe but if done right about 99 Comment from : Jordon Edwards |
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Dan is a great person He was down at FUN show a few years back Has a very nice box store in Portsmouth, Ohio I am a fan of his channel To everyone who watches your channel add CoinhelpU, and watch your vids Coin Guy is awesome also Loved this video Speg Keep it up Comment from : Mike Brewer |
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I hope You are reporting the counterfeit coins to the local police and making sure that the local police contact the Secret Service Comment from : John Amirault |
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Excellent video Very interesting Comment from : IM Dunn |
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I WOULD BE MADDER THAN COOTER BROWN TO FIND I BOUGHT A FAKE COIN Comment from : Mark B |
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Enjoyed the videolots of things to take into consideration before purchasing heavy silver! Comment from : AWAKE & tired |
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Thanks Speg! Comment from : constitutional JB |
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did you try testing against different silver percentage coins? some Canadian coins are 50 silver, or a US 40 half dollar, or a 35 war nickle? Also a thickness test might have revealed a difference See if one of your local coin shops has n XRF gun That might pinpoint what's in there Could be enough silver content to at least make it worth something as bullion melt Comment from : steelhorses2004 |
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It's probably a silver pewter tungsten mix Comment from : Joseph Jones |
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Believe it or not this is water Lol Comment from : Santa |
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The doughy "states" even isn't as long in font spacing as the tarnished coin below it Comment from : Joseph Jones |
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When I read the title I thought coinhelpu sold you a fake coin I am glad to hear that he didn’t because I like this guy 😆 Thanks for the info Great video 👍 Comment from : Austrian Stacker |
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It's wild every shop and online dealer should be testing everything they buy so they know what they're selling and can price accordingly Comment from : Joseph Jones |
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Very informative video! Really enjoyed watching this Could the fake trade dollar contain nickel or zinc? Thanks to you and Daniel ! 😀👍 Comment from : Ontario100 |
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The design of your gloves is great ;) Comment from : Joseph Jones |
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Why didn't you put the real trade dollar on the last test to see what it came up with? Since the machine has a different setting for pre-1900 silver coins you'd think it would be different than the Morgan and Peace you put on there Comment from : ogr8bearded1 |
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Thanks for the great video Comment from : Coin collecting |
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I buy coins from Daniel also and without hesitation recommend him (started a few months ago) Checkout his website and watch his educational videos! Comment from : Peter Busterna |
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XRF gun will solve your problems Comment from : SaltCityHustlin 315 |
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