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CoinHELPu
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Don Hosick
Thanks for the information Good info
Comment from : Don Hosick


Chris Stanford
Thanks so much?
Comment from : Chris Stanford


Řфøм237
Well damn that's just great hopefully when the one i ordered online shows up its the real deal Thanks for the tips and heads up on these coins
Comment from : Řфøм237


bigredman31
Great video! I just started collecting a few months ago The gold “Indians” have quickly become the coins that I want the most but I’m too much of a novice to take the chance Now, with fake PCGS and NGC slabs, there’s nothing in place to protect buyers like myself because I’m afraid most coin shops will take these in as real(they look so good!) There’s a 250 at one local shop at a fair price but I just can’t take the chance
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Jim Goodreau
If it's gold and it way right it's good enough
Comment from : Jim Goodreau


ray cabrera
Cheap china scale probably not precise enough to determine
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Valerie Hodges
Is it possible to get your email to send coin info?
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Anthony Frisone
OMG!! I JUST GOT MY $25 1914-D TODAY, 9/20/22 I WATCHED THIS VIDEO, AND THE COIN I JUST BOUGHT RECEIVED FROM AN EBAY SELLER IT DOES NOT HAVE DOTS IN BETWEEN THE BLP!!! NO LIE THANK YOU!!
Comment from : Anthony Frisone


Plumber Stacker
Awesome video
Comment from : Plumber Stacker


SAM’s Guitar & Coins
Most of the earlier counterfeit gold coins, those made pre 1990 especially will be made of 90 gold The reason being gold was much cheaper pre-1990 and the numismatic value of any gold coin was significantly higher than their gold contentbrThey could afford to make them in the correct composition as it may have cost $40- $60 in gold or even less at 0125 Troy oz when gold was $250-300-oz but the common date 1/4 E Indians were trading at $100-200 in the late 80s
Comment from : SAM’s Guitar & Coins


opnwndo
I have gold plated silver ozsthat are magneticlol
Comment from : opnwndo


Nothin Soul of God
I am eternally gratefull👽
Comment from : Nothin Soul of God


Rocky Marciano the 3rd
Great Given more reasons for people to fear their stack and sell outta precious metals Good job!
Comment from : Rocky Marciano the 3rd


Rocky Marciano the 3rd
So it's the same hold content in weight so its difficult to catch At least its actual gold in weight even though it is a cheat
Comment from : Rocky Marciano the 3rd


Doug Smith
Ths is why I would only buy a PCGS or NGC graded gold coin
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William Bennett
I bought 2 $10 gold pieces years ago knowing they were counterfeit I gambled they we’re still some gold knowing even most counterfeits were 14k brbrPaid $50 each total $100 brbrTurned out they were 90 gold straight up Sold them for scrap gold and walked away with just under $1300 for the pair
Comment from : William Bennett


(ULTRA MAGA)Pure Blood Pride
I just figured those were all fake I won't touch them
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Track pack GT
Even if it's fake if the golds real I would still buy it 🤷 I buy for the gold weight anyway Cool video bro
Comment from : Track pack GT


tomas blanco
There's a raw 1913-S Half Eagle on e bay right now Missing dots between BLP Up to $699 Emailed seller to take another look at what he's offering
Comment from : tomas blanco


laughing lion
But is it Gold? 22k?
Comment from : laughing lion


Voice of Raisin
What year is it believed they started counterfeiting these coins?
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THE THIEF ON THE CROSS ✝️
My Sigma has never failed me you could even put a 24-karat gold-plated silver coin and it will tell me that it's a silver coin and not gold
Comment from : THE THIEF ON THE CROSS ✝️


Batch 67
Thankyou 😀👍
Comment from : Batch 67


MistaRich Dont Play
If you don't want it!!!!! I would love to have it! Great video and appreciate the info 🙏👍🤙
Comment from : MistaRich Dont Play


jcpicks
$25 and $5 Indians are the most counterfeit gold coins in history
Comment from : jcpicks


Jose Aguilar
You r ful of itthey real
Comment from : Jose Aguilar


MrDavison282
great video as always! side note took my wife and son on vacation this past week and detoured through portsmouth, i never knew how beautiful the country was out there WOW! only wish it was during the week so i could have stopped by the shop, unfortunatly both times passing thtough was early morning on a saturday
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Mit Mann
I had a 1908 Quarter Eagle until about 12 years ago I fell on hard times and had to sell it I got $300 for it I still have a 1969 Blue Book and in there the 1908 is listed as $2250 in XFlol This year I replaced it with an American Eagle 2022 One-Tenth Ounce Gold Proof Coin for $315 It's a beautiful coin but you need a magnifying glass to see it
Comment from : Mit Mann


Mawi  Numismatic
Heloomrgood cointangk s
Comment from : Mawi Numismatic


larry785
Your scale is not accurate
Comment from : larry785


geifsanderson
Well, I suppose if I wind up with one of these fakes, I can at least be happy I have the gold content
Comment from : geifsanderson


ApplezToOranges
This is one of the best counterfeit coin I’ve ever seen
Comment from : ApplezToOranges


B R Supreme-Constitution
I'll just never buy coins like that Problem solved
Comment from : B R Supreme-Constitution


The Aspiring Gentleman
I purchased a 1914 $250 Gold Indian but mine is PCGS with anti counterfeit features I really like that it has the NFC scan Very informative video Thank you I definitely won’t be buying any raw pre 1933 Gold I will definitely stick with the graded/slabbed ones
Comment from : The Aspiring Gentleman


Greg S
My brother got burned on a 1oz that was machined out and filled The machining was so precise, it wasn't possible to see where the 2 halves split even with a loupe
Comment from : Greg S


Commin Sence
What's everyone's opinion on graded morgan dollars? Will they increase in value over the next 10 years or would I be better off investing in silver eagles instead? I love the Morgan dollars but don't know what type of investment they are compared to silver roundsLooking for any opinions on the matter
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JEEM, also known as, Jim Hawkins
Daniel: Another great video and what a convincing counterfeit! Back in the early 1970's, the Middle East was producing many very well-made counterfeits, out of 95 gold, to get around the gold embargo in the US that was not lifted until 1975 I unknowingly bought one, but years later was actually able to sell it for more than what I paid because a dealer was buying them all up to have them melted into gold bars I wonder if what you have is one of those Middle East counterfeits? Regardless, thanks for posting this Cheers
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joyce evans
I HAVE MSNY NEW 2022 QUARTERS, 1 OF THEM HAVE A GOLD HUE TO IT, WHST DOES THAT MEAN??
Comment from : joyce evans


Alfred Parsons
Great vblog Thanks for the lesson
Comment from : Alfred Parsons


Manifest Destiny
you need a better scale that reads 100 my friend!
Comment from : Manifest Destiny


ARMADILLO
second looks real, I have no idea
Comment from : ARMADILLO


MDH
Another good video Thank you, Daniel
Comment from : MDH


Silver/Stanger
Great info as always ! I was actually looking at those coins just a few minutes ago today
Comment from : Silver/Stanger


END THE CCP
That's downright terrifying how good it is Who was making these counterfeits?
Comment from : END THE CCP


Ok, Groomer
I have a few of these I purchased as fakes One of them is indistinguishable to me It's well circulated and that hides whatever faults it might have had Only way my LCS found out was his xray machine It's 90 gold but the alloy is off I guess I should destroy it but I like to see if people can catch that it's fake Most don't
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Deborah Cameron
Teacher I need your help I just bought some MS69 proof silver 1999's being 25 bucks for the 1st 5 states, what I read being silly me with my ptsd I did not read everything, the sale stated "the proof sets where removed by the rating company PCGS and rated by them 69 Now I am not knowing of what rating companies do, is it possible they remove coins from Proof set to grade? I sort of doubt it, I might have to return the order, dang dealing with coins on amazon you have to pay return shipping which cost 1/2 your order so now I am so confused, I don't know if you ever covered PGCS removing coin and if they don't do it can you address this Please I don't see this issue anywhere
Comment from : Deborah Cameron


Stephen Dowling
Hugely informative!! You are truly a master in your field!!
Comment from : Stephen Dowling


Jim Comstock
Very helpful
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Harold McLean
There are an incredible amount of Fakes out there , I have been burnt before and it really Sucked but it's part of your Education, If you have a "I know everything ego " The day you get Stung is coming soon
Comment from : Harold McLean


Mateo
Never knew that about designers initials Organized crime is flooding the market with fake gold coins Mainly tongs and triads, Chicoms, Malaysian and Filipinos They are quick buck artists who dupe people into buying thesebrThe adage if better to make a quick buck than a slow dime is the motto of many con artists Great episode 🙂
Comment from : Mateo


bob sacamano
My gold Indian heads I purchased near melt so if it is gold why should I worry?
Comment from : bob sacamano


Eric Jurgensen
Outstanding! thank you!
Comment from : Eric Jurgensen


Sharon H
Hi Daniel, thank you letting us know about this wide spread counterfeit trend It’s pretty scary when the look and weight are very similar So am I correct in assuming the only real difference is the dot between the initials? I remember the good ole days when you can see something you like and purchase it without having a pit in your stomach bc you got scammed 🤦‍♀️ Thank you for another great video 🥰
Comment from : Sharon H


Jason Maggard - Modern Money Method
Great video A few years back I bought one online It weighed a tad heavy FYI real ones that are XF and worse NEVER weigh heavy In fact they weigh light Turned out it was basically 18k Seller took it back and seemed genuinely shocked it was a fake Looked really good too
Comment from : Jason Maggard - Modern Money Method


michael askay
One of these days I would like to trade my 1892s Barber half that I found metal detecting for a gold coin or a junk gold coin
Comment from : michael askay


Ted Smith
Hello from the great state of Michigan
Comment from : Ted Smith


Ontario100
Always learn something new when I watch one of your videos Thanks!
Comment from : Ontario100


HiTechFX
Thanks I had to weigh the ones I have I'm good
Comment from : HiTechFX


marc
Thank you for the information
Comment from : marc


South of Hollywood
That's why I only buy bullion these days
Comment from : South of Hollywood


Mark Kaidy
Will you use an XRF to get its composition?Maybe it is still gold and has melt value?
Comment from : Mark Kaidy


John Shoosmith
I don't have any American coins ( lol) but, wow this is excellent even for the world coin person
Comment from : John Shoosmith


Ken Kaufman
Very educational! Kudos
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george hairsine
I just had a Roosevelt dime with goe we trust
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brian raper
once got a $ 5 gold indian head 1912-s super nice sent to pcgs came back fake pcgs said in a side note one of the best fakes they have ever seeni was sad i did get mony back and they were the sad ones '''''''''''''''
Comment from : brian raper


Uwe Tetzlaff
Good points! There r books too on fake , counterfeit coins! Thanks Daniel!
Comment from : Uwe Tetzlaff


Retired Old Guy
Does anything ever get by ANACS??
Comment from : Retired Old Guy


KENNETH COOK
Imagine a machine pumping out fakes all dayby the thousands We are doomed without knowledge
Comment from : KENNETH COOK


Eric Lusebrink
Notenow I remember I dug up the article on these counterfeit (yet with actual gold content) dollars and quarter eagles on the Eric p Neumann numistic portal there are tens of thousands of old quarterly pamphlets, books, coin meeting minutes, musings and observations from old timers etc etc on the portal Next question is how many of these little rascals are in safe deposit boxes, collections, little jewelry boxes etc
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Cecilio Villanueva
As a Newbie Stacker!-Thank ya so much Daniel fer Posting this Informative Video!Can you do more on counterfiets when you getta chanceI think the FANS want to know a Comparisons between The US,China&World Conterfiet Coins,Tokens&Notes!!!
Comment from : Cecilio Villanueva


Eric Lusebrink
I've had 2 of those myself and just as bad are the little gold dollars there are thousands of counterfeits of these in the market VF-XF and they are very very well struck - thankfully I had a scale, sigmapro and slabbed examples to compare with I no longer buy ANY gold dollars or quarter eagles unless their slabbed Problem is their content is gold but how much? 40 60 70? they never read within bounds on the sigmapro I read in some old coin pamplet/quarterly on the web from mid 1980's (sorry I can't recall where) that these originated and were widely used in the Arab and meditrainian regions and are worn due to their being better part gold and used extensively in commerce thus the worn VFish look Someone somewhere had a very successful run with these and they being a good portion gold and weighing very close it would seem perhaps an actual foreign coin mint may have been pumping these out in 19th century There's more mystery to these than answersperhaps we will never know Bottom line when I see these on ebay or LCS I don't walk away I run Excellent download thank you at 3 4 500 bucks for these little rascals its too risky for me buying them raw
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CoinJack15
This is why I’ve never bought one of these coins I really do want one, raw, so I can actually hold it, but over the years my gut says that I will be fooled by a fake Thank you for the video, Daniel
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Rickys House of Crap
everybody watch out for Ebay they are charging tax on silver and gold and the shipping charges to i have just caught this on a new auction i won about 5 days ago and i went back to see if they were charging me before and no just on the shipping charges and thats wrong to i been calling Ebay for the last four days to get them to fix so i can pay for silver coins i have won but they want fix the problem so i have reported them to the Texas comptroller to get them to fix and will try to let the stacking community know whats up look at the invoice to see if they are charging tax before you pay if so complain to ebay thanks
Comment from : Rickys House of Crap


monkeybutttt1
That’s why I only buy from local people I can pay them a visit if they screw me,knowingly or not 😬
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MD
From what I've heard some of these can be composed out of actual gold since the Indian designs have quite a bit of premium to them
Comment from : MD


Kenny Goslyn
Can't you just use gold accid?
Comment from : Kenny Goslyn


George Matthews
Daniel, there is also a big difference in the facial features!!!
Comment from : George Matthews


George Matthews
Daniel, there is an irony here for me Native Americans in Minnesota called my favorite tribe, the Lakota Souix, "Snakes In The Grass" before driving them west to the plains!! I call counterfeiters and hackers "Snakes In The Grass", for lack of a worse adjective which would not be appropriate to speak in public!!!!!
Comment from : George Matthews


Brian leonard
I have 1926
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Constitutional Patriot
back when platinum wasn't worth much, in Russia they used it to counterfeit gold coins by plaiting the platinum with gold
Comment from : Constitutional Patriot


DALE STONER
When it comes to those coins I would even take a ICG hollered one knowing it is not fake
Comment from : DALE STONER


Charli
So what happens next? If I understand correctly, the fake one had some gold based on the results of the Sigma Do you bend the coin and throw it into the gold scrap pile?
Comment from : Charli


Michael Goodspeed
Thanks Daniel, another informative video, you are not scaring your viewers in my opinion, but blessing them with knowledge and actually saving them money I believe knowledge is a form of power and wisdom Best wishes to you and yur loved ones
Comment from : Michael Goodspeed


ltcol
Daniel you keep making the case buying raw coins is a big risk something i would never do thanx
Comment from : ltcol


Nick Gonzalez
I've bought a couple that tested at 14k, I was wondering if they'd be an actual counterfeit meant to pass in 20s or made later on to scam someone?
Comment from : Nick Gonzalez


Stirling Engine
Always look for the orange/copper color in the depths of the incuse features I have never seen an Indian without that orange coloring Especially at the tips of the feathers and in the stars
Comment from : Stirling Engine



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