| Title | : | Proof u0026 Prooflike Morgan Dollars - How to Tell the Difference - MS66 u0026 MS67 Morgans, Proof 1879 Dime |
| Lasting | : | 12.15 |
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This is a late comment, but the '03 is badly over graded Comment from : DSkiNYC |
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I noticed that the 1903 MS 67 (seems to have a relatively weak strikeesp noticeable on the week eagle's feathers)yet it still got the extremely high grade I read in books and have heard years ago, that if there's a weak strike, even if near perfect cheek/fields, etc, it can never get above a 65 Any comments are appreciated Thank you Comment from : James Kerry |
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Yeah the 1898-0 also IMO doesn't look close to 67/68 True it's for near flawless fields but it appears to have wear in hair over her ear on obverse and reverse it's lacking detail in the brest feathers Perhaps it's just the way it was captured via the video It is a nice coin don't get me wrong also Great video Thanks Comment from : IamElectricTN |
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More like this brSemi high grade rarities tutorial brbrTy ty Comment from : Arnival |
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Agree on the harsh grade for that proof You find pr-65s that look worse than that Comment from : Prawnstar |
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THANK YOU! Finally someone talks about Morgan PROOF! So difficult to have graded correctly!!!!! Like almost impossible if you’re not known in the business The dead giveaway is that I think you called it acrylic?? I call it waxy over glaze not all have perfect rims but they will be square along with boxy denticles Higher “hair bumps” than BS Boxy raised lettering and numbers Comment from : Prawnstar |
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Do you sell your coins, Comment from : Doctor Goldbud |
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Do you want to sell some of those coins I like the 1892 Morgan dollar s Ms 63 Comment from : Doctor Goldbud |
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What would be the simple comparison of PF Morgan and Morgan DMPL? Comment from : Simba The White Lion |
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Sorry for the triplepost, but I think they made the proofs at multiple mints! My guess doing a super lowball is 10-20k, which is fair to do considering they've had over a century to be subjected to all sorts of sad fates They gave these to governors and colleges, so I can imagine a governor not caring for coins doing something like tipping a waitress with it, and it eventually winds up flea marketed to some excited knowitnone old fart who promptly takes it home and wirebrushes it to death Or there could be some across several campuses stored in boxes, forgotten and just waiting brbrAt any rate, I wonder if 2023's proofs will try to be styled similarly, and if so, how much that will change the price of these old proofs PLs and DPLs will always have their own market for the reasons you mentioned, as they are somehow far stronger than any proof even made more recently in 90 and each just has that unique character about them, but these proofs will soon have only history on their side instead of overall type rarity My guess, though, is that the proofs next year (though no doubt sure to be nice) will not at all be like that - I didn't even see these reflecting you, so I don't know if they are more of a satin finish proof like you mentioned, or if these tone well, or even if you just didn't get a good angle, not wanting to accidentally self-dox! brbrAnyhow, loved the video! Coins deserve to be showed off, so thanks for showing them to us Comment from : Dr Thomas Rasberry |
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Second comment, since it is a PF, aren't the standards themselves different for the scale due to how categorically different the type of coin is? Comment from : Dr Thomas Rasberry |
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Eagle looked a little strapped for chest feathers for an MS67 Comment from : Dr Thomas Rasberry |
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Thank you Excellent information Comment from : James Kerry |
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I really wish there were a different term for wire rims on coins It's the wrong word to describe a sharp rim A wire rim means that the rim is shaped like a wire, which is a thin, round surface, not a sharp edge with sharp sides Comment from : Todd Merrell |
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I wish someone was tracking toning on coins based on storage conditions, eg 2x2, slab, other and including the general temperature range thebr coins might have been stored brBasically I’m interested in how much toning occurs and how long it takes for toning to occur brbrNice coins you have and I love that blue toning br👍🏽 Comment from : Everett White |
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Learn something new about Morgan’s all the time Man I’d like a Morgan with a proof only designation like the one you showed Comment from : Spokane Silver Stacker |
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Could you look at a coin for me Im trying to figure out if it's proof or prooflike it's a 1904 o Morgan dollar Comment from : Robert Keesee |
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Weak strike on the eagles breast 1903 Comment from : Beast Mode |
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Definitely the 98o Comment from : Beast Mode |
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Can you do another in depth video explaining morgan proofs? Seems like your the only one on you tube with a video about them Comment from : Shane George |
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On the 03 MS 67, the strike isn't that good Look at the hair over the ear Or is that worn dies? With the toning, it's hard to judge the luster Comment from : David Ho |
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Very educational Thank you Comment from : Aaron Ruggles |
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Thanks a lot for useful info about wire rim of proof coinsbrA great respect for your job!!! Comment from : FEEL ALIVE |
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Are they not harsh on proof coins as they know SOOOO many of them have been messed with over the years ?brTechnically I would suggest there are more impaired proofs (pre 1935), than non-impaired proofsbrFrom what I’ve been told in the first half of the 19th c it was considered acceptable even encouraged to shine coins up rub or even polish thembrThe fact that there are wide spreads between certain grades in certain series has and always will motivate and spark greedy coin doctors to get to work Comment from : SAM’s Guitar & Coins |
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Want to thx you iv been looking for a vidoe like this for a while I got a 1886 morgan with the wire rim on the back on one side Comment from : TheMakaveli96 |
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What's an 1881 O MS67 worth? Comment from : Chris Ramirez |
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Does this video count as college credit? I feel like I just got educated :o) Comment from : champstar9669 |
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The wire rim doesn't lie on these for sure - thanks I learned something today! This idiot found an 1886 Proof and swished the toning off in waterlike an idiot$40 investment shoulda woulda coulda :(I guess it's not ruined but I've yet to send it in for gradingthere'll be more that wash up during Covid especially Comment from : Andrew Hart |
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great info ben awesome coins Comment from : charles adkins |
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I have Morgan dollar sir u buy Comment from : Rogel Fortugaliza |
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Very educational my man I'm armed with knowledge about what a proof Morgan looks like I have never seen one ever,in person like in a coin shop, cool video 😃👍✌ Comment from : Conrad Pons |
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Some awsome Morgans there hope to have a 67 in my collection one day thanks for sharing Comment from : stack attacker Wager |
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WOWWWZERS Awesome Amazing Morgan's wow Comment from : Mike Palet |
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Thank you! Comment from : Upnorth Collector |
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BEAUTIFUL HIGH QAULITY PIECES! LOVE THE TONERS!🤤😍🤤😍🤤😍 Comment from : AntFrey 302 |
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The 1903 just doesn’t have quite enough luster for me to be worthy of a 67 That 66+ is a super solid example though and I wouldn’t bat an eye if it were in a 67 holder 👍 Comment from : Tylonn Platinum 3rd Coins |
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Nice Morgans indeed!👍 Comment from : Just Add Silver |
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Love the proofs! Great info in the video Comment from : Bill Bradshaw |
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Thank you Ben for sharing those awesome examples of Morgan Dollars I think the MS - 66+ should have got MS - 67 Comment from : Mike Smith |
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Think the 98 66+ was way better and overall mutch more pretty The 92 proof is lovely shiney coin Comment from : Five Four bravo and Little Bravo |
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Thanks for teaching about the wire rims I was not aware of any of that but this was a perfect first lesson So many amazing Morgan silver dollars here lately! Wow! Comment from : seam |
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Gorgeous proofs Ben! Love both I am in the market for a proof Seated Half Still haven't one yet I love my PR Morgan Yes they are harsh on them But rightfully so Proofs display all of the details Rubs of the coin really standout as hairlines with the super reflective fields Anyhow, thanks for sharing! Comment from : Silver Surfer |
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Like most, prefer the 98-o over the 1903 The 98-o is gorgeous and looks like a 67 Not sure about the 1903 but that might be the toning Thanks Ben Keep up the videos Comment from : R Crandall |
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All my Morgan dollars are ms64 or lower But I love looking at all your great coins Thanks Comment from : Timothy Loyd |
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Great info Almost as great as that morgan Thanks Comment from : dylan |
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Thanks for information 👍 Comment from : Mansuri Nasir Husen |
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That 1903 is a tad over-graded Comment from : The Blake |
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Awesome details preserved on the reverse of that dime The 98O is the most attractive of the dollars, but that proof is something that is pretty unique Great show and tell on the wire rim and denticles Comment from : David Ufford |
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IMO, the 1898 O looks better than the 1903, even though a half point behind The proof dollar gets a 62 in my book with a lot of hairlines and the contact marks in the field to the right of Liberty bust, even scratches such as like on her neck Comment from : Eric Dawson |
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WOW Love that proof Morgan Thanks for all the good information too! 😀👍 Comment from : Ontario100 |
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This was one of the better videos I've seen in a long time I study Coins very often but I feel like you just got my knowledge up way better! Thanks for the schooling Ben! Have a good weekend Comment from : jrduke45 |
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Another great video topic I've been on the hunt for a nice MS66-MS67 Morgan Comment from : Michael C |
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To me it’s quite obvious the difference but I am so used to looking at other coins that it is nice to see it on those Thank you that was a cool video Comment from : Master Of Cents |
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The dime is top shelf stuff Comment from : Master Of Cents |
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I’m surprised the 66+ did not get a green bean Comment from : Master Of Cents |
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One giveaway for a proof Morgan for me is how sharp and defined the denticles look (Edit: I made that comment before I got to the part where you spoke of that very thing) Comment from : James Goss |
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That 66+ is a knockout, nice depth to the fields and devices The 67 looks flat by comparison Comment from : James Goss |
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