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Should we abandon the multiverse theory? | Sabine Hossenfelder, Roger Penrose, Michio Kaku

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Dr Lyons-Weiler has defined an empirical test of the multiverse theory It involves the single vs dual slit experiment conditioned on a quantum number generator Comment from : WWDNYK Studios

You didn t understand/discover the characteristic of water ( attributes of water)still yet, you are talk about the multiverse ?! Comment from : radi nelaj

Thank you for this I can take multiverses off the list of what to think about Now I understand that the multiverse theory is a brainchild of linear thinking This is also explains that "Hollywood loves it" as Michio Kaku puts it Multiverse theory seems to be the logical conclusion for people that are bad in dealing with the idea that there are relations between things, not a path to be chosen This explains to me why Sabine Hossenfelder and Roger Penrose basically just say one thing: 'Who cares or what is this good for?' The answer is given by Hossenfelder: It is good for entertainment, and entertainment can be inspiring brbrBut obviously not for Penrose and Hossenfelder herself, who both don't look like entertained But maybe it is just the kind of person they are But maybe because they are the kind of person they are they can see the things they can see ;-) Comment from : Florian Thalhofer

I am not sure that we have the mental capacity to really understand the phenomena of existence, at least not on an intellectual level It is a problem that can only be realized on a spiritual level It cannot be spoken about as it seems it is beyond all theories We don't "live in " a universe Comment from : John Ryan

Give the host a trophy - he did a great job Comment from : Sam B

This was uncomfortable to watch Comment from : Gabriela Cambero

Was Kaku contributing from a screaming Disneyland? Comment from : VanDemon

Michio Kaku is what becoming brainwashed by money and fame looks like Comment from : x

today i learned that michio is a fraud, selling a product Comment from : Degozaru

If there really were binfinite/b universes we would have known a very very long time ago It literally would not ever have been a topic of debate The very fact that we haven't discovered a parallel universe proves that, even in the almost certainly unlikely event that even one exists at all, at the very least they are not infinitebrLike its literally so stupid to believe that it could be possible You can't prove it Its embarrassingly unscientific Comment from : Thumb Head

Michio Kaku looks drunk during this discussion Embarrassing, really Comment from : Buster Cam

well now i have to go find out about this anomaly in the magnetic moment of the muon Comment from : meemee keykat

Electricity is the missing Comment from : Cliff Craig

Electricity is what is what is missing from the cosmos Comment from : Cliff Craig

halfway through I feel like Penrose is just wondering why he's spending an hour of his life in such a conversation when all that needed to be said was said in the first 11 minutes Comment from : Elite Extremophile

Gosh, let me never end up in an argument with Sabine She is so certain of everything she asserts Comment from : tjl consulting

There is this theory that says: to assume time exists, is the basic mistake And because of this we will be running around trying biting in our own tail Never reaching the final, all explaining theory we were looking for so desperately An everything including, explaining and connecting scientific ultimate theory can describe the point of the universe brOr of all universes if you likebrOne just have to start on the right track, otherwise you will be lost “ in translation” brLets return to the start of this comment:brTIME DOES NOT EXIST, BECAUSE EVERYTHING HAS BEEN THERE ALWAYSbrWe cannot comprehend in our limited 3D brain what this utterly means Because of this, one has to assume that everything will be happening again exactly and precisely the way it is now in the whole univers So ultimately in this eternal timeless universe the same situation , constellation, etc imagined as be frozen in our human imagination, will be happening over and over again just as uncountable hundreds of billions of other situations Not because of a one time coïncidence that makes this present situation happen, but because there is no time, no time limit, no border in the eternity we are part of already Not when we are dead, but now already!brAnd for the scientist hanging in to the present way of thinking in physics and numbers including time as one of the descriptive factors: this kind of science is part of a niche , a niche in the real unendless universe , where one can create its own set of values and theories and sciences The truth of this set can solely be found in the niche accepting the premisse ao time does exist brAnd to reassure these brave scientists: this all means your beautiful minds have always been there en will always be there And thats why the universe has no point brBtw, this theory is my own brainchild and I invite everybody to shape and mold it Just take your time by way of speach , if it doesnot work now, it will come around at another timeless occasion later on in the past … :) Comment from : I de Ploeg

One does not need to have any training in physics to know Kaku is wrong All you need is the basic knowledge of epistemology, logical fallacies and rules on how logical and sound arguments work Kaku proposes an explanation, and in its defence he admits it is not provable now, but says it will be in the future - as many other theories were (fun fact: it was wrong to believe those theories until there were proven, because they were indistinguishable from falsehood) This is a shockingly glaring logical fallacy One has no basis to differentiate falsehood from truth UNTIL there is unambiguous evidence for it I am sorry for how low he fell intellectually And believing such a thing is a testament one abandoned the pursuit of the truth Comment from : impact0r

At 37:00 Kaku says in regards to theological arguments compared to multiverse theory is that there's no supporting evidence This is only true if there is absolutely no veracity whatsoever of subjective experiences having no reality and that they are 100 pure fantasy, except in the case where some subjective experiences strongly suggest veracity as a consequence of a large body of correlation between reported subjective experiences For example, the experience people have of the colour blue is a subjective experience which matches other peoples experience of blue in the sense that whenever anyone is asked to point to something they see as blue they all (barring colour-blindness) point to the same colour This shows that there is correlation between reports of subjective experiences and truth Whenever people report experiencing feelings of fear when, for example they are presented with the threat of physical harm, ie a very sharp object is placed close enough to the body, especially the eye, to elicit fear, those feelings are known to be real in that fear actually exists in reality This is accepted as fact in part because it is what almost everyone reports they experience when sharp objects are placed in close proximity to the eye These reports have also been further verified by physiological and neurological evidence The veracity of theological arguments between reports from the laity, ie those persons that have not engaged in prolonged periods of intensive mental discipline with regards to their spiritual practice tend to be vague, with little substantiation other than belief based on scripture Advanced spiritual practice with theological elements such as prayer and penance that do employ prolonged periods of intensive mental discipline, especially those that destroy or inhibit negative, unwholesome mental, psychological or emotional states and nurture and cultivate positive, wholesome mental, psychological or emotional states as well as attending to acts and motivations of selflessness, often lead to perceptions of one-ness, not only to other people, but also to nature, the cosmos, the universe, ultimate reality and to something ineffable The greater the level of discipline, the greater the conviction that there exists a spiritual realm, but also, as this conviction increases alongside one's commitment to prayer and penance, the greater one's commitment to humility and one's abandonment of arrogance, conceit and egobrThe fact that the subjective experiences reported by spiritual practitioners holding totally different religious convictions and even of those that have no theological basis, such as Jains and Buddhists, report almost identical experiences at the level of advanced practitioner, is very strong evidence that there indeed exists something that is ineffable but also accessible to human experience The language used to describe these experiences may vary widely, but this is a consequence of cultural differences; the correlations are undeniablebrThus Kaku's observation might have some standing in regards to laity, especially the us laity, since the us is the most materialistic nation on the planet and has the youngest (and by definition, immature (and consequently, most shallow (and myopic, bar islam))) spiritual tradition on the planet, barring the indigenous traditions Comment from : mr7 4nders0n

The term 'Multiverse' is irrelevant, absurd and wrongbrThe word universe include everything and the idea of oneness is macde clear Universe is infinite Comment from : George Thomas

5:53 was that a fart? Comment from : Chat Man

The chicken who gets fed everyday at the same time and gets comfortable to its model of the universe until the farmer chops its head off She is fantastic Comment from : Astreos

Seems string theory of predicting to proove predictable everything I find it arrogant to assert something undefined as being correct Comment from : Astreos

Why am I listening to this I haven't got a clue what they are talking about 80 of the time lol Comment from : MeAmJjguo

The simple solution is Determinism Comment from : john mcmurray

The simple solution to all they are discussing is Determinism Comment from : john mcmurray

"I don't understand all that" 😅😅 "I have no idea" 😅 Comment from : M K

what if there is no ridged set of laws and this is all relative based on subjective input and perception? string theory is and isnt true Comment from : Cultureshock

Lewis Carroll Yes, he is a nutter Comment from : tony

Being an external measuring device myself in the quantum universe of this video, I didnt managed to measure anything bEDIT:/b I have to say something tho and It's not that I intent to support Kaku, rather to oppose Hossenfelder and Im not an expert or something on this field (quite the opposite): Democritus' atomic hypothesis was left aside for thousands of years and everyone accepted Aristotle's four elements theory (he supported and added to this theory), for thousands of years Plato and Aristotle attacked Democritus' atomic theory which much later was proven correct So this 39:45 is not a substantial argument Comment from : paper toys

The theory is fundamentally absurd when we can't even comprehend the size of this universe It should be called the Theory of Desperation Comment from : TheStarflight41

Our universe could very well be the path of least resistance a lightning strike takes Many possibilities, but only one path is taken 🤷🏻‍♂️ Comment from : YOUNG BOSS TONY B

Shutter Mass Theory ®️ basically the speed of something causes wake in reality depending on the force used to transition from frame to frame Quantum particles aren’t in superposition, but are rather bouncing between positions before settling on one side - or the other We can’t currently measure that shutter speed, and I argue that all things teleport from frame to frame at various speeds, that cause different wakes within the fabric of reality Like a coin drop in which you can see both sides of a coin both in air, and touching the table, until at rest Comment from : YOUNG BOSS TONY B

What difference does any of this make to our finite lives? Comment from : BORGSTORM INSTRUMENTALS

18:45 Cheeky! brWould he dare do that to Sir Penrose? brYou don't do that to anyone, let alone to a Lady at her caliber Comment from : Tuxu HDS

1 million views! Certified! Comment from : gmshadowtraders

mucheu got bodied Comment from : Ben jamin

Penrose is just so polite Sabine is not as polite but maybe thats thier main "weakness"brA weakness that has allowed the "string theory" to hijack physics or mathematics Comment from : mcnerd IMAM

String theorists certainly seem to fill our screens morebrThey are the most comfortable in front of a camera and seem to be able to sum up thier views in ways the majority of viewers can grasp in less than 3 minsbrUnfortunately, average attention spans seem to contract faster than the LHC can propel protonsbrAnd that is a very sad thought Comment from : mcnerd IMAM

I became smarter listening to those brains Comment from : John

If I was 1 as smart as Sabine, I would have gone places Comment from : Idle Hands

The theory of Rheostasis meets all three criteria of confirmation elegantly and coherently, fulfilling Occam's razor as well 👍:) Comment from : A von Sternen

Hypothesis Comment from : Paul Szymanski

Quantum computers / the universe operates in hilbert space, which is like a supposition of every possible world configuration It seems like multiple worlds to us with our simple world view, but its really just one complex universe Comment from : Dylan Menzies

Sabine seems slightly nervous sitting next to one of greatest all time scientists Comment from : Dylan Menzies

Penrose is the only real intellect here Comment from : Dylan Menzies

It is like the God In our image theory If it can pacify us in times of trouble Why not Just keep it away from grammar school kids Comment from : Brian Perkins

Michio is a scientism guy, and guys like that are always acting with brain-testicular overload confidencebrbrGer a grip Kaku, dont try to be anyone but yourselfand dont be so sure and "kaky" with your imaginary string universe, it's probably another garbage theory so dont be proud, be humble you fool Comment from : YSC

The multiverse is deism disguised as physics, but it comes up with some interesting questions, so it's a useful tool Comment from : Lorne A Brown

I massively respect two of the three of the panelists Never been a Michio fan Comment from : Gil René

Yes, abandon it , it's marvel comics Book sudo science rubbish Comment from : Thankyou for your EMAIL

As much as I have enjoyed Michio's books, when compared to the down-to-earth style of Penrose's pondering or the straightforward answers Sabine, it sounds more like ha is trying to sell a car and not a comprehensive theory of the entirety of the universe Example, "It took over two thousand years to prove the atomic theory correct" Not really Aristotle quashed atomic theory in less than a half century It was not even wrong for two thousand years It began to appear to be the best explanation of experimental results in the late 18th century and was generally accepted as true long before JJ Thompson began looking for parts of the atom in the early twentieth century Keiko glosses over twenty-five hundred years of history by suggesting that atomic theory required the whole time between Democritus and Thompson to prove it correct Comment from : jef bryant

I can't stand the way Michio talks down to literally everyone With that aren't I a genius tone of voice Comment from : ¡Kevin Savo!

Love from India 🇮🇳🇮🇳❤️❤️❤️🙏🙏🙏 Comment from : Mayukh Purkayastha

The layman looks at the concept of the multiverse and thinks “That’s stupid” The layman is correct Comment from : mtb416

Day by day I'm more in admiration of Sabine Hossenfelder What a mind she has! An excellent example of clear-mindedness! Comment from : Cherokee Tears

That's the problem with these English are considered pompous He stated @0:45 "This theory can't ever be proven" That statement proves that this he has never been in a lab If he had a humble bone in his body, he would have said this: "If the multiverse can be proven, we don't know how to do that at this time" Comment from : Red Shirt

The idea of a multiverse is a religion to some and you know what Marx said about religion Comment from : Gunslinger

All this is distraction from the reality of human problems While these folks are mentally masturbating, war, famine, natural disasters, and hatred go on as usual Comment from : Robert Koretsky

Look, It's not even improbable, if you have observed life forms in a 20,000 ºC environmentbrObserved in Japan 1997br5cm long huhu grub like lifeforms all over the interior surfaces on a Plutonium reactorbrCan humans exist "down" there ??brIt's a one way trip, involving a conversion to photon densities that we have never been able to rebuild anything back to Electron weight let alone crystaline structuresbrBut those dimensions definitely EXIST!brM Theory is actually proven!brb*EINSTEIN*/b Comment from : Bloody Orphan

We should abandon all of the folks who were doggedly wrongbrA clean slate was needed decades agobrNow is the time! Comment from : Christopher Bachman

This discussion ran in circles Comment from : Wombat HIJS

Bravo ! I'd Love to see their opinions entangle when they see actual psychic surgery and the phenomena of the body opening to release illness and closing again w/o a scare and the holistic nature of a person's noble actions leading to this convergence w/ God - Comic book or Real real to me as I have empirical evidence, false to another as their destiny is divergent from this experience Comment from : James Williams

Michio Kaku is nuts and I love it! :D Certainly isn't a proponent of real science, but he's top entertainment Comment from : gecko1322

This discussion finished where it should have started Comment from : Alex Sie

They sure made Michio Kaku look like a fool Comment from : sinephase

Seems to me that unless there is proper evidence for the multiverse, we can just approach it as phenomenon in our "uni" verse, not separate from it but a part of the one we know Comment from : Alan Roberts

Penrose for Prez! Comment from : Quantum Stereo TV

Teorija struna je najveća laž u istoriji ljudskog postojanja Zamislite vi ovog coveka ,CoFounder teorije struna i onda PISAC pa profesor hahahahahahahahaahhahahahahaahahahah COFOUNDER I ONDA PRODAJE LJUDIMA MAGLU Svaka cast ovoj gospodji/ci Kapa dole Comment from : Petar Nedic

Ovaj Kaku po meni samo ponavlja kao papagaj i krade od drugih po meni jako neozbiljan teoretičar Comment from : Petar Nedic

Kaku je po meni jedan od najskabijih naučnika on je obična varalica opet kazem po meni Upopste ne volim Kakua Comment from : Petar Nedic

Kaku, like haemorrhoids and old lace linen underwear, riding up your butt crack Penrose straight outa disk world, occupying a super position of alive but not quite dead This illustrates perfectly the West's dilemma Comment from : petrosros

Hi penrose Comment from : Priscilla Barberi

Who said if you can't explain it simply you don't understand it well enough? Comment from : David Watson

Earth is flat Comment from : Daniel Kerr

I do not like Michio Kaku at all There is something wrong in this man Comment from : Mihail Voham

The earth on the back of a turtle, which is on the back of a larger turtle, which is on the back of a larger turtle Turtles all the way down Comment from : Stephen Bailey

it would have been nice if the host was neutral Comment from : Hans Vehof

sabine is mommy Comment from : turd ferguson

there is no supporting evidence therefore multiverse is science fiction, not science, KISS Comment from : majorgeeek

String theory is well funded study and made popular for wrong reason It is proposed and sustained to delay scientist for reason that is very hard to swallowbrBut the real scientist that you never heard of or ever will that are working on real project String theory is a tactic to delay open science and scientists so some other entity can gain grounds in underground science ask your question why multiverse in string theory is gaining ground over anti matter or anti gravity?brbrString theory is more of wokeness than science Comment from : Markusko Armani

MichioK created religion of string theory You must believe it and wait for miracles to prove it Comment from : Markusko Armani

Space is infinite so if this universe exists in a vast infinite space than most likely other universes exists in certain stages, some being born, some a few million years and some are dying etc Comment from : Mitch James

For all people laughing at him You won’t be laughing in a few years time Comment from : Ricky Redfield

world economy is failing So is the quantum theory Comment from : Markusko Armani

String theorie is a good tool, but it ends in infinite regress Comment from : David Schmitt

Once we realize counting sand grains at beach is useless worthless , we enjoyed walking around and swimming When we know infiniteness attempting to dig around showing our immaturity and adamant behavior Comment from : Aniket Tripathi

Michio Kaku is really a populist theoretician His opening is about possibilities, which is undebatable Of course no one can prove that any single idea/theory is Impossible brAnd it isn't helpful in scientific discourse to argue about taking a narrow view and "not open" as it were, to diverse or fantastical ideas Comment from : William C

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