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Suspected counterfeit 1853 Type 1 gold dollar. An eBAY purchase from Germany. Am I right?




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Wally
Reeding is off , looks like jewelry cameo
Comment from : Wally


Loco Stacker
I bought an 1851 from a reputable dealer, sent it in to PCGS, and it came back "counterfeit - false dies" I never imagined that such a small coin would be counterfeited, especially in a lower grade However, even with gold around $2000 per ounce, these coins only contain about $100 worth of gold, yet sell for $300+ in pretty much any condition So I guess there is a market there for the counterfeiters Luckily, my coin dealer not only refunded me the amount of my purchase, but gave me an extra $20 for the grading fee!
Comment from : Loco Stacker


LGANAR Fayssal
i have 1 dollar 1952 real not fake
Comment from : LGANAR Fayssal


S H
I just brought one from cambridgeshire coins today my collecting starting getting change through my businessI have a couple of proof two pence piece both worth £2000
Comment from : S H


jeffw1267
That coin looks like a plastic toy, which is a bad sign
Comment from : jeffw1267


Carlos Zava
Please get back at me
Comment from : Carlos Zava


Carlos Zava
Hi how are u I got the real coin uncirculated how much is it worth
Comment from : Carlos Zava


TerminallyUnique95
At first glance it looked like a cheap piece of plastic
Comment from : TerminallyUnique95


rhonda knight
To me it looks like the quality isn't there
Comment from : rhonda knight


Cameron McCreary
The problem with that coin is it looks like it's been electropolished therefore even IF it was realthe value is ruined
Comment from : Cameron McCreary


Ruth Godfrey
I'm seeing what you are seeing Too bad
Comment from : Ruth Godfrey


Silvio lima de souza
Tenho uma moeda desta original, está comigo a mais de 50 anos, br1 dollar de ouro de 1855 Posso vender se a proposta for justa
Comment from : Silvio lima de souza


Jose Campos Zabaleta Barreto
Trduccion en Español
Comment from : Jose Campos Zabaleta Barreto


Scuba Steve #2
That coin looks awful when viewed up close
Comment from : Scuba Steve #2


Billy Marcum
I've been burnt by scrupulous eBay sellers on both gold and silverexpesillay trade dollars it's fake the luster is way too shiny for that aged of a gold coin I get , my money back as wellwhen you set it besides the graded coin you can see the differencethecoin you purchased looks like it came straight out of the us mint
Comment from : Billy Marcum


Michel Lahor
It looks like a recent-made coin, I would think that if you look with a microscope at the surface that yoy'll notice the difference with a genuine one I make fake money myself but just for the fun of it, never have selled one and never will, I'm not a thief brBut yes it is a fake and not very well made
Comment from : Michel Lahor


Khumesh Jhakhar
Hamara pass ha America ka koine
Comment from : Khumesh Jhakhar


Brian leonard
Unless decam hmm I agree with you Did it test as gold ?
Comment from : Brian leonard


Theo Perator
Fake
Comment from : Theo Perator


Hamza Bakadir
5oya kayna 3ndiy whda
Comment from : Hamza Bakadir


Coach N
Anyone here interested to buy my 1853 $1 liberty head gold coin? Can send photos Thanks
Comment from : Coach N


Génesis Castillo
Tengo una moneda de esas pequeña de oro
Comment from : Génesis Castillo


Luis Ángel Sánchez Sánchez
Buenas noches soy de Venezuela tengo una moneda de esa tiene 13 estrellas la cara es igual pero en la parte de atrás tiene un aguila y dice one D no tiene fecha y es muy pequeña inusual para ser una moneda quien me puede ayudar con información de la mismagracias
Comment from : Luis Ángel Sánchez Sánchez


Nestor Villamil
Yo tengo una original
Comment from : Nestor Villamil


Pennsylvania stacker
Look how much larger it is
Comment from : Pennsylvania stacker


Andrew Selle
I’ve messaged many sellers on eBay explaining their coins are fake I’d say 5/10 are receptive and the others hate to admit they’re wrong and got took They also don’t want to lose out on their purchase so they pass it off on the poor saps on eBay Dangerous place it can be
Comment from : Andrew Selle


jorge arturo fernandez zuñiga
Cordial saludo desde Colombia tengo una moneda similar de oro sino que en su reverso dice 4 reales año1864 también colecciono quiero de ustedes que me pueden decir al respecto de esta moneda tendrá algún valor será rara y su país de origen
Comment from : jorge arturo fernandez zuñiga


toyman81
I hope you you received your refund, If not how much did you lose my friend?
Comment from : toyman81


Marques Cameron
I like the half eagles as well It's affordable, easily attainable and it has value
Comment from : Marques Cameron


Orlit Angulo Rodriguez
Cuanto bale undolar de 1853 no es de oro
Comment from : Orlit Angulo Rodriguez


Marcela Serna
Disculpe quedé gringo
Comment from : Marcela Serna


fathand Robert
Definitely a fake! Better luck next time!
Comment from : fathand Robert


THE RADIO UNDERGROUND
seems just to have too large a diameter too
Comment from : THE RADIO UNDERGROUND


THE RADIO UNDERGROUND
seeing them next to each other so fake
Comment from : THE RADIO UNDERGROUND


THE RADIO UNDERGROUND
looks too flat, the liberty head face is very dull too
Comment from : THE RADIO UNDERGROUND


THE RADIO UNDERGROUND
MAN A FAKE 15 GRAM COIN SCARY
Comment from : THE RADIO UNDERGROUND


Rita Kriz
terrible fake
Comment from : Rita Kriz


Markis Williams
The hair the crown the hub
Comment from : Markis Williams


NickyVEE89
fake got a real one in my hand that rim is total wack
Comment from : NickyVEE89


Ramon Rodolfo Bogado
tengo una moneda de oro de 1853 la quiero vender ,que vale
Comment from : Ramon Rodolfo Bogado


Bernard Colbert
Had you tried weighing it? I have a similar fake Mine is a slightly better quality forgery It weighs over a half a gram less than it should
Comment from : Bernard Colbert


Ramon Rodolfo Bogado
tengo 1 deolar de oro de 1853
Comment from : Ramon Rodolfo Bogado


Randolph Relic Recovery
Bad copy in my opinion Shame
Comment from : Randolph Relic Recovery


Christopher Austin
Fake
Comment from : Christopher Austin


Derf
I think you need to get a metal tester machine
Comment from : Derf


Michael S numismatics and collectables
100 percent counterfit try weighn it
Comment from : Michael S numismatics and collectables


Johnj Marinc
Yo
Comment from : Johnj Marinc


Alfred Miranda-Rodriguez
Fake!
Comment from : Alfred Miranda-Rodriguez


Mike Dennington
Always buy slabbed, always check the number, always use PayPal and credit card, always buy if they offer returnsNever trust dealers they sell fakes as well
Comment from : Mike Dennington


PHILIP LOOMIS
FAKE
Comment from : PHILIP LOOMIS


Leo Knight
Come on dude it is so fake get your money back press charges on a side note, I love your channel big fan here
Comment from : Leo Knight


Abu Obaidah
100fake
Comment from : Abu Obaidah


Thomas Cavaness
It is definitely a fake
Comment from : Thomas Cavaness


Joel Raffety
Eek The reeded edge looks beaded!
Comment from : Joel Raffety


jimmy
I have a couple of those and that one is definitely counterfeit Look at the chin on Lady Liberty and that hair that she has is awful Lustor should have told you something for sure Good thing you can get your money back if from ebay
Comment from : jimmy


Drake
It seems like you do a lot of coin buying, so haven't you ever thought of investing in a Sigma Metalytics that way you could pretty much verify this kind of stuff as soon as you receive it, mind you it's not cheap by any means, I believe it's almost $800
Comment from : Drake


Johan Floyd Chan
Hi Numistacker that coin is fake I have one that is 1853 and that coin that you have is counterfeit I would totally report that to ebay and put that on the seller's feedback remark for trying sell counterfeit
Comment from : Johan Floyd Chan


Billy Gagne
it's a cast maybe gold but it's definitely not the coin I don't think that coin has ridges on the side or maybe it does but it's fake it's a good one too not people are assholes
Comment from : Billy Gagne


Sean E
100 fake Rims are all wrong, design wrong, etc looks like a California gold token design I was always told to buy graded gold dollars cause they're so highly counterfeited I bought a type 2 1855 raw from my reputable dealer, and it was cracked out of a old ngc holder graded AU 50 Sent it into ngc came back au53
Comment from : Sean E


Rory ODonnell
a great deal of forgeries are here from CHINA
Comment from : Rory ODonnell


walt2t
Looks very different, smart move sending it back
Comment from : walt2t


Silver BeachBum
Yeah just by looking at it like the hair and color and the left ones head looks off osme like a different size slightly  Sorry man I think it's a fake
Comment from : Silver BeachBum


Philip Wagner
Not just a fake, but a BAD fake !
Comment from : Philip Wagner


Robert Morris
I'm sorry Fake
Comment from : Robert Morris


BSD
looks fake 100
Comment from : BSD


BSD
looks fake 100
Comment from : BSD


sam
Fake
Comment from : sam


John A
Of course I can't judge that But the coin is kinda ugly and maybe you don't want it even if it is real
Comment from : John A


Jubo Obuj
Looks fake as fuck
Comment from : Jubo Obuj


Larry Stendebach
Sorry buddy 100 fake Return ASAP!
Comment from : Larry Stendebach


Dr G
I have two fake quarter eagles that look a lot better than that Horrible reproduction Thanks for sharing
Comment from : Dr G


Silveready1
hard to tell, but surfaces look a little too shiney and "proofy" for a business strike, "lustre" looks like a plating to me and face detail looks a little odd - let us know what you find out
Comment from : Silveready1


Iris Finch
Definitely fake!
Comment from : Iris Finch


Considering Phlebas
Break it open and see if there's chocolate inside Also, the hair looks totally different from the genuine one
Comment from : Considering Phlebas


Amazing Things
What's the weight of it?
Comment from : Amazing Things


Amazing Things
I think it is fake, does not smell an American dollar at all!! There is nothing as much as I can see to be similar with a US dollar! You are definitely right on your point of viewing this coin
Comment from : Amazing Things


Donald in New Mexico
Hi Numi, The beading around the obverse looks uneven and too far from the rim The nose on Liberty looks large near the forehead Am I seeing things? Thanks Donald
Comment from : Donald in New Mexico


Sun Bird
Good that you caught it Too many fakes out there slabbed and raw
Comment from : Sun Bird


papavalium
With the amount of coins you are dealing with, and the value, I would buy one of those digital sensors that can tell you write away if the coins are real For the medals, it might be a great help too
Comment from : papavalium


papavalium
This is 100 FAKE The wear is not right, the look, and the coins are just different
Comment from : papavalium


m m
Looks fake to me
Comment from : m m


MétéoMan
The comments below have pretty well covered everything I could say At least you can send it back Irritating, though
Comment from : MétéoMan


damonz83
I'm sorry to say its looks fake to me, the rim is wrong the beading isn't the same the stars look different, so many things to get you worried And as you say the head is totally different and wrong I am surprised you brought it with your experience even tho you trusted the seller I am far from a expert but I would say its 100 fake, even if it had 1 wrong feature I would suspect a fake
Comment from : damonz83


Silver Diva
If everything is wrong its probably not right Sorry Numi
Comment from : Silver Diva


Vault Keeper
Looks like a combination of a California fractional and a $1 Someone being creative
Comment from : Vault Keeper


Soozie Snake
i'm a total noob and it definitely looks fake to me, in comparison with the other coin The face on the fake is more crude than on the genuine coin and the stars aren't as dainty
Comment from : Soozie Snake


CoinEnthusiast
I think you're very intuitive and I completely agree with your assessment of the coin I would return it to the seller on Ebay for a full refund
Comment from : CoinEnthusiast


Tom Watson
the rim looks suspicious and also the orientation of both sides of the design is wrong
Comment from : Tom Watson


Mark Stewart
Purchased a similar coin on eBay before Christmas When it arrived, it was clearly a fake, quite a few blemishes, no trace of the word 'Liberty' on the head, but very little wear on the other side of the coin Received refund from seller, he had purchased them from a 'cash converter' Now just sticking to slabbed coins, however with the $ so strong, things are just too expensive
Comment from : Mark Stewart


francis daniel
those small dings on the rim are a 100 tell that its a copy when you look it up experts say that counterfeits sometimes have that exactly on the rim like yours
Comment from : francis daniel


Backyard Bullion
Something dosent look right to me Numi Have you tested it is real gold? at least if it is made of gold not a total loss!
Comment from : Backyard Bullion


Monetka
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Comment from : Monetka


Monetka
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