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A $150 Million Video Game Disaster - The Tragic Tale of Project Copernicus

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Nowadays Big Huge Games is doing well with mobile games like DomiNations, which resembes one of their most beloved games, Rise of Nations Comment from : L A

The only time he was based was when he was talking about trans issues Other than that he fucked up wasting dozens of millions Comment from : Hades Zero

Kingdoms of Amalur deserved more Comment from : Robert Stoll

I was so happy that THQ Nordic was able to re-aquire the rights for this IP Fingers crossed, they want to continue with this world Comment from : Myca Zglinski

It’s so fucking weird to hear ri being at the center of something Comment from : Clovis

When I heard Tencent, all I thought was “oh no” Comment from : Sean Lowder

Still hoping that Amalur MMO will be released some day Kingdoms of Amalur had that certain magic that made me love this game to this day Comment from : ArtiNotSoParty

Even if the new company tried to make the MMO, it would have to start from scratch as everything in the game is clearly dated at this point Comment from : Arische Setmses

Ok Comment from : Shiki Kairagi

Thou art wrong MMOs are dead Because MMO devs, mostly game designers, to be specific, don't have the faintest idea what they're doing which was always the case, but somehow, with less streamlined game systems, stuff was better before the challenge of those barebones systems was fun, now it's all just a chorebrCrafting is 99 of the time utter garbage,brGathering is in support of that and also garbage,brWorldbuilding is almost always a fail one way or the other,brQuests are well ye olde faithful uninsipred bs Talk, fetch, killbrBut the most annoying thing, I think, is that we don't get any agency What pisses me off more is that Palia, a game that's in beta with only 2 maps that aren't all that big gives you more agency, and sure, it has no actual combat, and there's a lot of dumb limitations, but I am genuinely stoked at the idea that I can make shitloads of cool furniture, expand my house and have my own little dream farm AGENCY! Allowing people to set personal goals and allowing them to pursue them along questing and whatever story you're trying to tellbrMMOs are deadbrI've played them all Have some fond memories, but they are dead Comment from : Arthank

The only difference between Reckoning and Re-Reckoning (the remake) is that Re-Reckoning has one additional DLC that continues the story of the base game, which isn't avaiable on the old versionbrbrThat said, i love KoA and bought both versions with all of the DLC It isn't on the same Triple A level as the Fallout or Elder Scrolls series, but it's still a damn great game Like you pointed out, it feels a lot like Fable so anyone who likes that series will get a kick out of KoA as well I never knew about the background of the studio though, it's a real shame that such a great game didn't get the recognition it deserves because it was made by the wrong people Comment from : High Demon Elgrim

smiling friends thumbnail Comment from : Mempavrai

you're actually soo cute n the nerdy charm you have is just so captivating😭 Comment from : edy

You took the "we have to go back to the beginning" to the next f level I mean bloody socks oh my god Comment from : Tyrei Malacros

PLEASE MAKE A video about SNAIL GAMES and ARK SURVIVAL EVOLVED Comment from : MrfeelingGoods

“Boston shitpants” was a missed opportunity Comment from : Bear Jacobsen

17:45 "their bed was made" into the bed of chaos is the funniest shit I've seen Comment from : AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Is anyone at all surprised that Curt Schilling turned out to be as disgusting and bigoted as he is incompetent and hypocritical? Comment from : Wobbles And Bean

22:00 I once worked with a guy like this ×1,000 Strap in, this is gonna be a long read but goddamn if it isn't entertaining, if only for how ɓαƚshìƚ insane it isbrbrHis name was Yosuke For some reason, Square Enix thought he was the right choice to be handed the reins to develop a AAA title that was bialso/i/b a new IP They did this despite him never making a game before, his only industry experience was making a dinky little minesweeper appbrbrThe power went to his head instantly, and how I was the producer for the game, when I joined the team I was the 3rd one assigned to the project Spoiler: I wouldn't be the last, either Turnover was ludicrously high, as anyone who iwasn't/i fired during one of Yosuke's many megalomaniacal mantrums, would quit within a matter of weeks Not even the owners and top execs of the studio Square contracted out to develop the game, were safe from Yosuke He had the power to fire them, too So they just shut themselves in their offices and avoided him as much as possible, essentially throwing us employees to the wolves with little to no support from thembrbrWhat made Yosuke so insufferable wasn't just that he was a tyrant, but he was also a manchild Like, full blown meltdowns, screaming fits, and throwing objects level of manchild I had nothing to do all day, because Yosuke wouldn't let me create a production timeline He said he wasn't done with preproduction yeteven though the game was supposedly in post-beta Even if I had gone ahead and made a timeline though, well first he'd have fired me, but he would never adhere to it The guy was submitting bitwo hundred changes to the design doc, every single day/i/b Post-beta Two hundred changes A daybrbrThose of you who have worked in game development before all just had a brain aneurysm brbrLet me explain why that's so bad The design doc is basically the game development bible, it's the foundational document from which everything in the game is built upon It's one of the first things you do when creating a video game It's kinda like a blueprint You can't build a house when the blueprint isn't drawn up yet, you could finish putting all the walls up, only to find out the architect changed his mind and now wants an open floorplan You'd have no choice but to tear it all down and start over again, wasting an obscene amount of time, resources, and manpowerbrbrThat's exactly what happened with the game Devs just played Minecraft all day, and the art team would dutifully work on creating art assets despite knowing it would all get scrapped the next day, cuz at least they could add the unused work to their portfolio for the inevitable job hunt they knew they'd have to do soon enough No one ever got any actual work done under Yosuke because of his incessant changes One time, he even scrapped the entire design of a main character, so everything that had been implemented at that point, from art assets to the AI programming, pathing, mocap work, bieven voice lines,/i/b all thrown away Months of work and millions of dollars, wasted The studio owner tried to justify it to himself by saying the character looked too much like me (which admittedly she did, out of sheer coincidence) and that after I got canned they were worried about me coming after them for using my likeness, which is nine kinds of BS The owners frequently played mental gymnastics to justify Yosuke's obscene levels of incompetence, even as he singlehandedly ran the studio into the groundbrbrYosuke would always see something in an anime he liked (because of course he did) and demand that it be implemented in the game The problem was, anime isn't real life, and the futuristic technologies he saw in the anime didn't exist When the lead developer told him that, he fired them on the spot I think that time, he wanted the game to send calls and text messages to the player's phone It took us several hours to finally get Yosuke to understand that such a thing was not only impossible, but also very very illegalbrbrSomething similar occurred one other time during our weekly touch base Yosuke wanted some kind of peripheral accessory for the game, some odd contraption that would spray mist in the room anytime a ghost was nearby in-game Obviously, we all told him that wasn't gonna happen (we'd taken to telling him no as a unified front, cuz he wouldn't fire all of usin theory) Yosuke put his hoodie up, sharply yanked the cord so hard it engulfed his entire face like an adult japanese Kenny, turned his chair to the wall, crossed his arms, and sulked for the rest of the meeting He just sat there pouting, blatantly ignoring anyone who tried to ask him a questionbrbrObviously, the game ran WAY over deadline and over budget There was no way in hell this game would break even, let alone make a profit I can't understand why Square never removed him from the project Even if they had a contract, surely Yosuke had failed to hold up his end, Square probably could have replaced him easily with any of the experienced people on our side It's like they didn't even care how much money they lost, or how badly they were screⱳing over the studiobrbrI really tried my best, but with no way to do my actual job, I only lasted 6 months before I was fired We'd been trying to get out a vertical slice demo ready for E3, and were in serious crunch The dev team consisted of 10 guys, so I ordered 8 extra large pizzas I thought that was ok, it was new york style so one extra large pizza was the size of a wagon wheel Lol nope, the dev team gobbled them all up within minutes and claimed they were still hungry So, I got fired Fired over goddamn pizzabrbrYou wanna know what the real kicker is, though? That wasn't even my worst experience working in the video games industry HeII, I wouldn't even put it in my top 3 I have way too many horror stories Comment from : Wobbles And Bean

35:53 - well that joke was pretty accurate and funny to be honest XD Comment from : Kamyczek

It’s pronounced maynerd not maynarrd Comment from : To Pa

funny thing is, Kingdoms of Amalur: reckoning and more recently re-reckoning and it'sits DLC Fatesworn are actually fun experiences Not the greatest but enjoyable nonetheless Comment from : LeafLizard

Great video dude👍 Comment from : Maxxieman

My thoughts throughout the video:br - oh, hey, a documentary on a game I have never heard ofbr - oh, hey, a rich person I have never heard ofbr - oh, Amalur, I remember that That was fun Not the best RPG, but not bad either It did some really interesting things Now I know why if felt a bit mmo-esquebr - oh, the spending habits of the video game industrybr - oh, politics that could never happen herebr - oh, now we're properly into money laundering and false promisesbr - oh, now we're into croundfounding stretch goal lies territorybr - oh, now we're adding uncomfortable political positions on social media Comment from : HappyBeezerStudios - by Lord_Mogul

Never make a deal with a government They will always screw you over Chafee completely F’d them over Comment from : Kevin Webster

Now see on one hand, I think if you take out a loan you should have to pay it back not pass the buck, but I also believe colleges have become a scam, requiring you to spend more and more money to get your degree Comment from : AcertifiedBAMF

This is why limited goverment is always best brbrI worked for the government and ive never seen such wasteful spending Comment from : carsandsports123

KoA was a really amazing game I loved every single bit of it from start to finish and I was always sad that the dreams of this becoming an MMORPG never been realised At least now I know why Thanks for this great video dude Comment from : Poor Imagination

good video, but i am haunted by not knowing what game is at 5:39 someone who knows please help Comment from : Emily Ivy

35:38 his one based moment Comment from : cutiepie

I was practically drooling over KoA before it released and once I got my hands on it, the excitement quickly began to fade Because of gameplay I chose mage and honestly, at the highest difficulty, I was just meteor-ing mobs and boss monsters alike and it got boring and uneventful very fast Its sad i honestly wanted to know what happens at the end Comment from : Lemonidas of Sourta

Has he done a video on the CONDEMNED series🤔🤔🤔 Comment from : ZAKAttaKZ

arms are lookin big my dude Comment from : Squirberus

I remember taking WoW seriously:brOur glorious leader saw my potential and I was pointed towards an active battlefield When I arrived, Alliance and Horde were fighting in fierce battle and flaming rocks were falling from the skies, just as I was toldbrThe NPCs were just wailing at each other, without doing any damage to each other Rocks would fall unto me, but they did no damage, nor did they make a sound impactingbrImmersion: 1/10brUninstallbrEnd of story Comment from : Fones R Phunny

Funny that an "objective failure" of a game got a pretty successful relaunch as Re-Reckoning and still looks and functions better than a number of other games made at that time Comment from : Tobias Nexus

What a bummer that game never came to be It looks beautiful Comment from : Artistic Pineapple

YOU NEED TO LOOK UP THE SQUARE SOFT ''Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within'' FIASCO IT MAKE THEM LOST MONEY SOOOOOO MUCH ITS LITERALLY WHAT FORCES THEM TO MERGE WITH ENIX (THEIR RIVAL DEVELOPPER IN J-RPG WHO CREATED DRAGON QUEST) AND BECOME SQUARE ENIX Comment from : Maximixdu69

Wait Halo mmo? Destiny? Comment from : DeeMellow

Real talk, do you think the human race wouldve been better off if the collective playtime of 5-6 million years by human beings had been put into tangible productivity? Comment from : Dr Izzt Frizl PHD

18:48 What film was that on Where the person was force fed stuff? 🤣 Comment from : Paralysis Analysis

14:06 I did enjoy Kingdom of Amalur Was so much to do! May well buy it again Comment from : Paralysis Analysis

6:48 🐳🐋🐋🐳😂😂 Comment from : Paralysis Analysis

2:37 And behind him there was Amalur A great game but was also a failure commercially Comment from : Paralysis Analysis

Hm i remember that rpg was pretty good Comment from : Hectic1 Tech

I've not seen such misplaced grit as some idiot getting famous for throwing a ball with a damaged tendon I can't think of anything more pointless in the history of the world than that Comment from : TheMadAfrican1

BTW where us deadly premnison 2 Comment from : just chill broo

I actually loved Kingdoms of Amalor back in the day I had no clue its game development company had such a wild history Comment from : Alright, Squinky!

Not defending anything just curious Who was offended by extremists being compared to nazis? I think it's safe to say they're both bad so what's the problem? Comment from : Drewcifur

I remember learning about this in elementary school (can't remember which grade) It wild hearing more detail on this and how it screwed over the workers Comment from : Pooky1991

"I'll be honest, Curt zero" Comment from : captainthrall

Im so disappointed that KOA Reckoning got shafted like that Its really a good game It really deserved better Comment from : Graveantelol

Video on the suffering? Comment from : Deezy

Kingdom of Amalur Reckoning was great It felt very magical and epic feeling But after a while the world just felt dead, like it was missing something Kinda like it should have been filled with other players Either way I kinda miss being able to play it Comment from : Colt Scrabbleborough Esquire

Dunno when you’re gonna get to do another video like this since the popularity wasn’t that great, but the development for the game Oni, a game made by Bungie West just before the release of the first Halo, also had a pretty interesting development cycle that might be worth your time Comment from : Meganimanic

I loved kingdoms of amalur reckoning Comment from : ErieRiders Chilling Corner

Always nice to see a garbage human being like Curt get shit on Comment from : SlyGuy21

6:16 The Racist😂😂😂🤣🤣 Comment from : ZAKAttaKZ

Shout out Guild Wars 2, you made me fall in love with MMORPG, I love you Comment from : BJ Scarlett

Damn Comment from : Vextonomy

you chose the best tropico to use Comment from : Justin Arzola

To the last part game designing/development is a pain as for i am trying to learn it but a lot of people are naive when it comes down to it and they act like they can make a better game Comment from : L-E-0-N-A-C-0

Curt is definitely a guy who has big ideas, visions, and persistence He just made the big mistake of thinking you can replace financial planning, in-industry experience, and marketing with big ideas, visions, and persistence Comment from : Nervous J

35:58 - wait a minute the way that presenter worded her phrase suggests the nazis are the ones suffering from the comparison 😂 Comment from : JuTi

Im still waiting for manhunt 2 video🤧 Comment from : ایلیا شریفی

fire vid bro i👍/i Comment from : larry lasting

I also grew up on Everquest It was, and still is, better than 99 of other MMORPGs out there Comment from : JD

I'm sorry but tearing a tendon doesn't cause external bleeding, that's as much BS as Schilling himselfbrAnyone who has done a lot of sports that involved walking or running have at some point rubbed the skin off to bleed like that Comment from : JD

Checking in from Providence, Rhode Island Yup Comment from : Dillon Walsh

KoA was a dope game I played all the DLC Would be cool to see a sequel Comment from : Colby Neblett

I remember this game coming out, kinda It looked super generic and "me too!" so I walked right past it It always looked well made, but it didn't look interesting Comment from : borderline

I was really into the concept art of this game, which really didn't survive the transition to KoA (which does have its own style, just not the same) Comment from : Cam

Kingdoms of Amalur was my ABSOLUTE FAVORITE game for a long time Comment from : Alex Jensen

I would love to see an Silent Hill 3 vid from you, you make some of the best content I've seen Comment from : Pavement Juice

Great video as always, but where is the Deadly Premonition 2 video? Comment from : Doot doot

If the people who wrote the DLC for Re-Reckoning are going to write the sequel I weep for the future of Kingdoms of Amalur And let me be clear, I LOVE the base game for Kingdoms Comment from : DragonAceSg7

Government funded video games Comment from : __

If Curt's investment in big names for the sake of his project seems strange, remember that his only business experience was in the world of baseball American sports teams in major cities are not run like any other business on earth, because they are established industries and cultural mainstays where success is certain So, quality is irrelevant because there will never be a lack of investors or profit, and you can absolutely sign on multi-million star athletes for no other reason than it will get more butts in bleachersbrbrAt least, that's the classic baseball philosophy, the "Moneyball" philosophy: Spend huge amounts of money because more money is guaranteed Actual businesses are run by something more closely approaching the Sabremetric approach, balancing investment cost and the output of said investment The New York Yankees can absolutely afford to spend ridiculous amounts of money on superstar players who may or may not live up that amount, but a smaller city's baseball team can't, because they need wins to justify their continued existence When you're too big to fail, or more accurately too big to be allowed to fail, you have different priorities over someone just starting out or struggling to survivebrbrLikewise, a new video game company can't be run the "Moneyball" way, especially when they're putting out a new IP as their first project Where an established company putting out a new entry in an established IP can more or less expect success, a new company with a new IP has no such guarantee of success Ambitions have to be kept small because there's every likelihood that regardless of quality, the product may fail due to factors outside of anyone's controlbrbrWoW was from a known studio and a known IP Ultima Online was from a known studio and a known IP Most successful MMOs are Curt was expecting to make WoW levels of money off of an unknown IP from an unknown studio the instant the game was released That was never going to happen, even if Copernicus released as planned However, because Curt's business experience was only with a major American baseball team, he assumed that WoW money was promised from the start Comment from : First Last

Your videos never cease to keep me invested the entire time Great job! I never heard of Kingdoms of Amalur until now, I was too busy putting an ungodly amount of hours into Skyrim during that time it must have escaped my radar Comment from : CabbageEd

Do a video about manhunt2 please Comment from : Khaled Alhusaiki

"Executives don't care about you They only care how rich YOU can make THEM" Oof It's really sad how true that is Comment from : Shandi Strutter

if i had a dollar for every time a sportsman with a rocky personality and past became a bible thumping transphobe, i'd have two dollars which is two dollars too many Comment from : Gamer Dog Gwyn VODs

Mmos 😴 Comment from : Walamonga1313

did not know they made kingdoms of amalur, makes a lot of sense, when I was playing it for the first time I thought to myself "this just feels like an offline MMO" Comment from : James Lamb

It was called Green Monster Games because of the famous, gigantic green wall in an American baseball stadium literally called "The Green Monster" Comment from : Jesus Smyth Jones III

Schilling is a tool, baseball is lame Comment from : Jesus Smyth Jones III

I never got notified for this video!!!! Comment from : SemkOld

It's a real shame how all this went for the company The actual game they made was a decent first outing and they probably could have moved on to far better releases I'd also like to say that Chafee actively trying to tank a large company in his state, which would benefit greatly from the company's success, just for political clout and self-satisfaction should send him to prison Comment from : DarkChiron

please shave whatever that disaster on your face is bud Comment from : Topher

Still waiting on that Deadly Preminisons 2 video you know Comment from : Konrád Kecskés

As a Bostonian, I can confirm that Curt Schilling's skill in baseball is only surpassed by his ability to be an apex boomer scumbag Comment from : trompeloeil1

Wait,wait,so he took Tax money as a loan,fire 400s PEOPLE WITH NO NOTICE,CEOs still taking their golden parachute Yet can file bankruptcy and get benefits of being bankrupt? Like my mom says: "When you are rich,everyone gives you perks When you are poor, everyone fives you hinders" Comment from : Metrack

He dislike troons, thats kinda based of him lol Comment from : Pan Revan

Good thing the team isn't called "Boston White Socks" I am trying to forget that imagery Comment from : Eonymia

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