Title | : | Biggest Difference Between Bad Art and Great Art by UCLA Professor Richard Walter |
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🦄 Dolt by John Rickel 🦄 Comment from : John Rickel |
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I feel sad for the students that have to listen to this guy's nonsense All he says is bad art is boring He never gives any support of what boring is The example of "not boring" are shows about psychologically unhealthy, violent white men who abuse the women in their lives His one example of "boring" is a narrative about a woman who leads and economic revolution for the working class and oppressed Not surprising that and white male academic feels this way Comment from : Stesha VanWye |
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Art is subjective Comment from : kygtong monkey |
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I was drifting off during this video 🤣 Comment from : Jeffrey |
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The fact that he’s at UCLA, in California, a true Californian makes 90 of his opinion nothing more than bullshit Comment from : Bruce Davidson |
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Art is something that makes life more interesting than art Comment from : Denis Dražetič |
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People of now does not have a personality I think that's the problem for me with art and music in the 21st Century It's all the same There's never been more people with advanced tools and tech and techniques to do art and music but when artists are like sheeples, it looses that personal touch and becomes wallpaper Comment from : grimble |
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I was quickly reminded of what art is when I discovered "The Caretaker - Everywhere at the end of time, Complete" Oh wow all 65 HOURS of it too I had no idea what I was in for Il admit I had to stop listening to it because it actually managed to get so far under my skin I was dreaming about it so I had to walk away But what an impressive piece of art it is to manage to simulate such a complex issue such as Dementia Its proper terrifying but worth studying I think Comment from : Blink Space Studio |
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I expected this to be erudite and obnoxious, but this was really down to earth Thanks Professor Comment from : Alex gets better |
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I have a different philosophy I think different forms of art are a way of communicating thought that are much more detailed and intricate than speaking in language They aren't entertainment, they're transferences of mind Most of the world wont understand the best art, even if it gets hung in a museum and crowds gather around it rubbing their chins and miming depth Bad art can be many thing, it can stays on the surface level where we speak english and communicate one dimensional ideas Thats not the worst art though, because sometimes thats helpful It can be an shallow imitation of the appearances of good art Have we heard any noise musicians lately? Most of them dont have any sense of creativity and they just hope you cant tell the difference Art can also be a tool for an activity that diminishes its artistic merit despite another situation having the potential to utilize it For example, if you take a museum tour and see a picasso youre engaging in a pretensious and useless activity If you buy a book of his art and stare at it at home to comfort yourself maybe that could be closer to experiencing the art within the images Comment from : lurtz |
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When he said much art is bad, i felt that Comment from : HolidayRob |
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I disagree because DURING the 90s, it felt like it was one amazing movie after another DURING this current period it feels like all Hollywood can do is crap out corporate garbage Comment from : H MAN |
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all landscapes are dogshit made by retired housewives, change my mind Comment from : Lee Hilborn |
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Art is bad, because it all comes from Tiktok If I were to try and get the rich to vouch for my art, they'd tell me they only allow art from artists who have "established themselves"But if I go to Tiktok with my art, I'll get way more support And so to make that art, it has to be done faster than 3 minutes, which makes it come out generic Why go to where I'm not wanted with good art only to be gaslighted, when I can make bad art where I'm wanted, and get more views and fans? Comment from : Epicdudegreg |
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Nice to hear someone dare share his - and my - viewe on most modern art I usually say, that most of it is ruined art materials Mine is all fantastic though Comment from : BØRGE ODK |
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If I had to really choose one painting it would be difficult but The Death of Marat is very high on my list and another would be Dali's Crucifixion hypercubicus Comment from : Jude Barton |
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I've often drifted off when watching a film just as an engaging scene would later emerge I would revisit the film later when I was fully awake and see what was often a compelling story that I would have otherwise missed Comment from : Philip Follety |
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Nobody is responsible for you being bored Comment from : snorrevonflake |
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The difficult but essential rigor for the responsible art critic or professor is to develop a system of aesthetic judgment that remains sufficiently porous, agile, and yet clear and independent in conception to allow meaningful commentary on works that span a broad variety of cultures, genres, national contexts, eras, languages mediums, ideologies, etc To provide a meaningful evaluation of a work's communicative, semantic and sensorial content and whether or not that work achieves the various aims it seems to suggest it is attempting to achieve in various dimensions is a tall order, if one desires to do more than merely festoon her own arbitrarily preconditioned tastes and biases with a few verbal ribbons Comment from : Netizen Capet |
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How long did it take to “paint’ blue poles ? 3 years 500 million brHow long to paint Rembrandt’s de nachtwacht 4 years 500 million, give me Rembrandt any day! Comment from : the Musicman |
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He should paint a great one and show us brJust dont paint his face😂😂😂😂 Comment from : Charley Delano |
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We are exposed to tremendous amounts of "good" and even "great" work and as a result we can't appreciate it anymore If the internet existed in the era of Da Vinci there is high chance that a lot more art like his would be produced and as a result many would miss-not pay attention to masterpieces Comment from : GK |
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The imitation game is overrated as fuck and people talk about hunger games more This guys subjective ass take on art is objectively wrong Comment from : Gnarly |
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Agreed most art is bad, don’t agreed that because you can’t immediately engage with it does it mean it is a waste Definitely had to think a lot about some art to eventually understand and appreciate it Again agreed that good art will rise to the top But a lot of great art could be dismissed if you only relied on the initial gut reaction I think you are basically saying don’t waste your time on bad art Comment from : Das Bier |
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"There is nothing good or bad but thinking make it so" I find that oftentimes the reason you may not connect with a piece of work is because of the perspective you're viewing it from Does something have to sit in a museum and be taught to people as 'good' for decades to be worthwhile? I don't believe so Comment from : Kai balogun |
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the Met is boring NYC is a graveyard of minds who think NYC is great this guy is boring with his boring takes yawn Comment from : Some Person |
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Art isn't lousy, ever Comment from : Patito Lilac |
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I don’t remember the imitation game It’s must feel so uncomfortable to speak on a subject when in a position of authority and be so lacking of substance and understanding Comment from : S4G Views |
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As an artist, it is very easy to get mad at a statement like that, but in reality, the statement is quite true Artists have to think that way Otherwise, we won't push ourselves Comment from : Ivan Levko |
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What a conceited, boring prick Comment from : Kate Bloggs |
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My take is a bit different Things are fundamentally different in this century than in the last No one looks back with that type of nostalgia anymore There’s no difference or defining traits of an era anymore It’s superhero movies and special effects in the mainstream Comment from : late night logic |
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this guy never saw a Velazquez, a Goya, a Santiago Rusiñol, or a Ramon Casasbrbri pissed in my pants watching a real original Santiago Rusiñol painting in Sitges ( Spain)brbr youtube/ZFzvpDdX_gY Comment from : VR DESIGN - Artist - Designer - Writer |
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What about the Hunger Games was boring? Especially the books Breaking Bad on the other hand, which I thoroughly enjoyed, was full of cliches, inaccuracies, and stereotypical characters that the Hunger Games didn’t have Comment from : Autumn Quintero |
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The Sopranos was great art? Contemporary, salacious mafia soap operabrThe Godfather was great art Comment from : No Moniker |
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Someone who talks about the first purpose of movies clearly is not to be boring, has never seen (or enjoyed) and Tarkovski, Jeanne Dielman or Hamaguchi, movies that are so immersive and emotional through the creation of a sense of tedium - in short, to be deliberately boring What he's referring to is movies as entertainment, which is absolutely true and respectable But I'm getting tired of the consideration that only entertaining movies really count, and the other ones are just for movie nerds and intellectual snobs Comment from : MA Garcias Comics |
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Good art needs to look like it was made by an alien or a human computer, like the Japanese Art called Anime, the calculations and ecuatioms make it look realistic Comment from : Daniel Serrano |
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all the gurus tell us what a great script requires, but can't actually produce one strange Comment from : Infernal Harvest |
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This could be a subjective experience While true, many amazing works are also forgotten To some extent this is an old man mind set, where we become sort of jaded by our own experiences He seems self conscious Comment from : Galvetron |
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This guy is himself quite boring And a bore And a cad Comment from : great-garden-watch |
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The average amount of time a view looks at a museum painting is 25 seconds Comment from : Incognito |
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It is good to hear this I feel the same Comment from : Incognito |
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Artists nowadays mostly do art for MONEY Comment from : Porgy En Bes |
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But how does "dramatic narrative" apply when deciding that art is great or "lousy"
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brThat a still life can provide a grand narrative is the point of Norman Bryson in “Rhopography, Megalography, And Chardin”
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brArguably every work of visual art has two narratives, a literal one and a visual one
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brAccordingly, art conveys two entirely different kinds of emotions The everyday emotions evoked by the literal narrative alone cannot explain art Literal narrative is not unique to art Most literal narrative is not art
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brThat seems to leave “aesthetic emotion” which according to the art theory of formalism a work of visual art that exhibits “significant form” will evoke This provides a sufficient condition that alone will bring about the event of art
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brWhere are the neuroscientists and cognitive psychologists for investigating this The few times I have seen them try they have come up short They say for example that jagged shapes put humans on edge But important works by Picasso including Guernica and Les Demoiselles d’Avignon have jagged shapes and they don’t put me on edge Comment from : John Reinier |
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This guy thinks like me I've written/said that a great movie/story will change your soul or consciousness Comment from : RodCornholio |
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What makes art deemed as “good” or “bad” have to do with the values of the time in which its created Some artists are out of step with their time They get called bad at their time But sometimes, centuries later, they’re considered great Comment from : The Wonderful World of Awesomeness |
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I find this professor inherently boring Comment from : Internet User |
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Bored Comment from : paintingtracey |
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Art is dumb Totally stupid Comment from : Jingo Jingo |
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this guy seems a bit moany Comment from : Lev Myshkin |
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I enjoy making my bad art so that’s good Comment from : Stephanie Rising |
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I enjoyed this video It stirred engaging, meaningful conversation in the comment section, I loved reading everyone’s views Wonderful Comment from : Olivia Blackburn |
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Yooooo hoolly dogs in the sky I'm the 6,100th like Comment from : As Youtube |
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I wana watch that flick from 100 years ago called Lord of the Rings Comment from : SketchPals |
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First of all, there is no bad art, only garbage being presented as art by unscrupulous predatory opportunists Most of the alleged art from the 20th century to the present is a cesspool of moronic stupidity, ignorance, ugliness and insanity, especially the vast majority of the cultural icons who were either conmen, delusional or both, who presented art brut as legitimate and equal to the Renaissance masters, which is like saying a toddler can be as skilled a surgeon as an adult who has devoted their entire life to their field of study and practice
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brBeware of those who are presented or present themselves as authorities, especially those with degrees which certify that they successfully completed a course of study in the kleptocratic system of corruption of academia proclaiming their conformity to the confirmation bias of the current ideological fads and trends Comment from : Eric Gendell |
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Would modern art be considered degenerate art like the Nazis proclaimed? Comment from : Judah Samaria |
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Different strokes for different folks Comment from : DLVRYDRYVR™ |
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I watched breaking bad and all it did was make me feel miserable I guess I'm just not sadistic enough to appreciate art Comment from : CheetahFoxx |
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The Sopranos & Breaking Bad changed your life? Poor thing Comment from : retroman64 |
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you are awesome I totally agree with you! Comment from : Simone Johnson |
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He lost all credibility when he disrespected the hunger games 😂😂 Comment from : Liam Hutchinson |
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Honestly art is so subjective you could have 20 people hate something and 20 people love and think it's amazing work and you thinking your opinion is so important and the final straw on what is good and what is bad is just idiotic and not the universal truth Comment from : TripleBeam |
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bThis is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO good! He’s not being cynical — he’s just calling out the fact that there’s carelessness out there!!!! Thank you!!! This is good content!!!!/b Comment from : Earla Weese |
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Err, isn't beauty in the eye of the beholder? This is just one guy's opinion about what he thinks good or bad art is Comment from : Daniel John ORourke | Fine Art |
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A million years from now no art created now will be great, unless reality as we know it is a simulation played back than it would entail its all great Comment from : Italozazen projects |
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I have heard of Hunger Gamesthe other one never have Comment from : Carissa Fisher |
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I agree with his general idea about great art having to be worth people's time Just a little quibble about the films he chose as examples The Imitation Game is, IMO, a sadly bog-standard prestige pic unworthy of its subject or cast The Hunger Games films, especially the first one, are pretty worthwhile because of their good starting concept and excellent acting Comment from : Jamina Vesta Jugo |
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I still don’t learn the difference between bad art and great art Comment from : Robert Canada |
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if i can enlighten anyone reading this, the birth of venus painting lacks skill and realism it is super famous Comment from : Dallas Segno |
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A true shame if this professor discourages one person because of this video Creativity is one of the few hopeful activities we have left Art is not meant to entertain He is confusing his need to be "entertained" with acts that document our being here People today want their underwear blown off The Sistine ceiling was not created to "entertain" you professor Go watch football or something Comment from : Keith Phillips |
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This is the most accurate explanation on art I’ve ever heard There’s an abundance of lousy, imitation, boring art in all forms (visual, music, theatre) This man speaks the truth many are afraid to say Comment from : Steve G |
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This guy thinks he so worldly but he's actually quite provincial His world is small Despite his education and position as a professor Don't get me wrong There IS bad art And there's art that bores me too But the idea that this is written in stone or not subjective is simply classic snobbery And I like Breaking Band and the Sopranos as much as anyone But "changed my life forever"? Really? Crime shows? Yes, those shows are better than Law & Order, but they are not high art in my opinion So he's a snob with mediocre taste Glad I didn't take his classes Comment from : Barney Miller |
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Impressionism has become so loved because it gives the vieuwer a good feeling , dispite the fact that the paint was aplied " haphazzard " in sted of the perfect way the 17th century painters and classical painters did brYou only buy what makes you feel good Comment from : Chris Kappert |
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Art can have value for any person but what distinguishes great art is that it has a deep meaning and breaks artistic standards Comment from : WritingWofl |
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Tik Tok - Don't be boring - Congratulations you got what you wanted Comment from : Peter Yu |
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This comment section is filled with so many beautiful and profound comments This must be where everyone with great taste gathers Comment from : The Pioneer Club |
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The Imitation Game?? Really??brDude lost allbrCredibility after that choice Comment from : Steven T |
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They won't be saying that Comment from : Massive Boy Entertainment |
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There is no 'boring' art, there are only impatient observers This guy is rather a consumer than an attentive observer, which reveals in the sentence: "it's up to the movie to keep me awake" No it's not, professor! If you're not awake in the first place, you won't even recognize a good artwork Comment from : Nikolaus Gerszewski |
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Honestly, this man just talks and talks and talks and thinks he's really intelligent for it Art doesn't need to be good or bad It's art Art is how we express ourselves One person doesn't have the authority on what is or isn't good art Comment from : Jay |
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Good art sells for a lot of money in the auctionbrbrBad art sells for anlot of money on the auction Comment from : MIWIarts |
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I find a lot of formulaic vomit seems to survive the years, and a lot of people aren’t going to like this: Jaws, the early Star Wars trilogy, Grease, Halloween, and Kramer vs KramerbrbrOn that list, Halloween is kinda alright, but IMO it has nothing on its (usually lesser regarded and appreciated) horror contemporaries like Dawn of the Dead, Carrie, Invasion of the Body Snatchers, and The Thing (another Carpenter film) Star Wars? The story is contrived formulaic tripe, the special effects? 2001 was already out, and much more interesting, IMO And the acting in Star Wars is garbage too I can’t believe people think Hamill is greatbrJaws is a B-movie/“The Asylum” type film that somehow people decided will be one of the most all time appreciated classics Underneath it all, it’s still just a s**ty shark movie People call Blade Runner fans pretentious, no, it’s the Jaws fans that are pretentiousbrbrThat was really pessimistic of me Pessimists like me are the problem on the Internet lately, but at least I take on established classics rather than contemporary films that don’t have the advantage of 40+ years of fan establishment So while I am an evil, it’s a lesser evil than likely most of you (who are undoubtedly pessimistic about a great many things) responding to bash me for my pessimism :D Comment from : Linden Stromberg |
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A great painting acts as an oracle Comment from : pstotto |
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Well, now every person with a camera can make a film In the 20s and 30s it wasn't the case Comment from : Margo Mills |
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"They'll remember the Imitation Game"brbrbProceeds to question what the movie was about/b Comment from : Joey Smith |
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great art moves you, it changes the way you see things, it speaks to you, it sparks conversation, inspiration, and transformation it too is a cycle go out there and create art that is meaningful to you and watch it resonate with the world around you :) Comment from : R |
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And what did he write? Sorry for asking Comment from : 𝕿𝖍𝖊𝖔 𝕰𝖎𝖋𝖗𝖎𝖌 |
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Koyaanisqatsi was the movie that did that for me Comment from : ElephantInTheRoom |
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truth Comment from : Sayford Ford |
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i honestly think he has no taste Comment from : Eddysyoutubetesting |
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I agree you have to sift through a fuck ton of shit to find something good but god damn some shit is incredible when you do find and and figure out where to find it Comment from : Ryan Marvin |
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The way he couldn't remember the "good movie" as well as he remembered the "bad movie" was art bad art, but art nonethelessbrbrSide note: I thought both movies a bunch of junk 😬 Comment from : Dylan Burton |
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