Suhr Hombre | An In-Depth Look

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Title	:	Suhr Hombre \| An In-Depth Look
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Excellent review I'm torn between getting the Hombre or the Runt 20 I do plug in my Guild Acoustic 12-string a-lot (prefer amp sound as opposed to direct PA) and most of the places I play don't want "Distortion" so I'm leaning towards the Hombre Thank you!
Comment from : @glenmurschel5939

Wow, good on them for adding the extra washer so the top cup doesn't dig into the tolex! I honestly didn't expect that cause this is honestly the first time I've seen it That should be mandatory with that type of cup washer Those washers are pennies for a company buying in bulk id assume so it's silly to leave them out It's always been a pet peeve of mine to remove hardware on tolexed amps and see a big gouge in the material (especially those super cheap handles that are toothed and dig in intentionally) It's also a pain if youve gotta replace the hardware and the new and the old doesn't match up perfectly with the imprint It really is that kind of attention to detail that makes you feel like the designers cared to create a quality product
Comment from : @michaelinglis567

I was so tickled to see you struggle with the strap screws
Comment from : @MegaChoo2

I’m saving for a very good amp I probably won’t be able to afford a really high end, but I’m thinking it’ll be between the DSL40, Friedman Runt or Suhr Hombre, based largely on what you have been saying about these I hope to buy new, so I’m wondering if it is worth it to pay roughly 50 more for the Friedman or Suhr What would be the primary reasons to go the extra mile?
Comment from : @christiandeworde2756

Nice to see what you get for your money !
Comment from : @malcolmhardwick4258

That's a HQ pc board, thick traces
Comment from : @user-bb7vc1qd4n

What B+ are you measuring if I may ask, got one over with a 489 Volts B+ and 450 Volts e-caps
Comment from : @cmwamps1

What would be your favorite speaker for this amp?
Comment from : @michaelsteven1090

Suhr owes you a little somethingYour reassurance in this review plus the fact I like the sound/featuresA lotHas me and others seeking it out
Comment from : @bootlegapples

Nice!
Comment from : @fivewattworld

it is beyond wonder why Fender never went back to the brown panels Every time I hear them, I’m stunned by how musical their overdrive sounds They have the Chris Stapleton model now, and it’s amazing from what I’ve seen and heard
Comment from : @rmedzoyan

I have an amp with PCB mounted output tubes on a daughter board, but the tags from the sockets stick way up above the board, with holes in them for soldering Hmm
Comment from : @brentbechtel7313

Interesting that he used Nichicon caps Hifi caps in a guitar amp? Do they make a difference ? I’m assuming just for reliability
Comment from : @Nightjar726

I didn't have much discussion with John but all of them were very informative and changed/improved my conception of gear/amp setting
Comment from : @thesoundpurist

Cant believe it has a V type
Comment from : @Jameswilliam1982

Top Hat Royale with cheese
Comment from : @tobiasryan8378

Never liked dr z, top hat, Victoria but I loved my first Rivera era super champ (needed money), first Allen v18 (needed money again), Vox ac15 (missed Allen amp couldn’t afford to keep), and jcm900 (too loud) You do not need to be highly qualified to remove or do shitvyk your amp, just cautious and informed about dangers
Comment from : @Bellabaddi

How can I learn and gain the knowledge you have about repairing, restoring and understanding amplification circuits and pedal circuits?brBesides shadowing someone who knows this stuff?brWhat are some good resources to study and find on my own?
Comment from : @toddlogan9023

Pity no verb on it
Comment from : @marcodado7473

Incredible amp… years of search was over after I got the Suhr Hombre and Cornell Romany 12 last year No more gassing for other amps since…brbrA recommendation for those considering Suhr Hombre, or have one and find it too loud… I ToneKing Ironman Mini II fits like a glove inside the cab I used Velcro to hold it in place The Ironman Mini II attenuator actually works really good and you can get it to sound sweet at any volume
Comment from : @JksGuitarCave

I prefer PCB
Comment from : @TheKeithbruce

Nice meaty tracks on that board
Comment from : @flobeeonekinobee2353

My first impression seeing that PCB was relief that it wasn't loaded with densely packed tiny little surface mount components It looks very nice!
Comment from : @RudolfWolph

Hi Psionic,brI love your channel,brDo you have any advice regarding how to get started/qualified as a tech?brThanks 👍brDave
Comment from : @davidbareham7122

I'm in no way an amp electrical aficionado, but I thoroughly enjoyed your review and insights! Great stuff
Comment from : @DejanToracki

Nice It looks better built than the Tone Kings Those things are appalling
Comment from : @MaxPower-js1sk

Considering how much these amp cost, they should be hand wired!
Comment from : @EdBenji

Would love to see an in dept look at the SUHR BELLA have you worked on any ?
Comment from : @user-tx8uc3iw3w

A great and well build amp But what about replacing power tubes? With (good) amp techs getting more and more sparse I don‘t understand why there are no external biasing points in such a new design allowing for easy and safe self maintenance
Comment from : @Michael-bm8hi

Do a soldano SLO 100!
Comment from : @wearesofucked

Got one of these some months back I'm really enjoying it In fact, I'm pretty much using it on all gigs With judicious jumping of channels and setup of yer pedalboard, this amp can hang with a full band Esp in today's gig world of lower vol's Nice to hear/see that it's Tech approved ;-)brI also wish that all the tubes were mounted to chassis, or at least the pwr ones But, yeah, for the price point, what do we expect?brBut, it would have been nice to be able to do the mod where you add silicone rings to the pwr tube mounts for some vibration isolation
Comment from : @stratomess

How did you end up in Memphis, I am in Knoxville
Comment from : @tjnugent62

IIRC, John said that speaker wasn't ultimately his favorite, but it worked well and he had to keep the economy of parts in-mindbrbrIf I remember correctly 🤣brbrEdit: That's why I opted for the head versionbrbrEdit edit: after living with the head for a few months man, this thing hits above its weight class!!!
Comment from : @nicholastotoro7721

Never change how you make videos sir
Comment from : @frankbennett3075

Looks like a very nice amp Lyle! Thanks for a good look under the bonnet (hood) Well built using quality components, pcb & wire dress Way better than my pos Chinese epi valve standard (copy), that I'm having to modify & virtually rebuild! It seems some companies have a distorted perception of what a quality vs price balance is But not this one!
Comment from : @nevillegoddard4966

Very timely, watched this whilst changing power tubes and biasing my Hombre Nice circuit and build evaluation, thanks for doing this ALSO thanks for the reminder on handle screws As mentioned, time temp humidity etc can make them loosen and mine which were previously tight all needed attention I really enjoy this little amp, for anyone interested go play one !!!
Comment from : @mwagliardo

I have a V-Type in a Blues Jr with Bill M mods and love it I tried a C Rex and didn't like the C Rex The top end was fizzy sounding Went back to the V-Type I get a lot of compliments on the amp from musicians as do I with my Allen Accomplice with a Red White and Blues speaker Love your videos
Comment from : @CRUNCHCOLE

Hey Lyle, great analysis and review! I always learn something from your work
Comment from : @mamulcahy

Thank you Lyle once again for top quality content I have been eyeing this amp for my "dual mono" amp rig to pair with Fender SS22 combo Definitely looking forward Thanks!
Comment from : @t3r080

Brilliant lesson on the traces!!!!
Comment from : @curtiseverett1671

I’ve been thinking about getting this amp for awhile and this video really answered a lot of my questions Great job and thanks!
Comment from : @8CountAudio

The pcb layout is lovely! Interesting that the traces are rounded but the component leads are all bent at a 45
Comment from : @ta04trf

Very nice breakdown of the circuit…quality thru and thruwell donesubscribed!
Comment from : @MumblinMofo

I think another reason for the axial electrolytic cap is because a radial would be too tall, making it not fit in the cabinet
Comment from : @vanceg18

This is a wonderful video - thank you I'm curious, however, why you keep saying sodder, rather than solder? Thanks
Comment from : @steveymoon

You just saved me from taking my Hombre apart to look! I suspected a pcb at the price point, but it sounds so good that I never questioned it further Seeing the guts, the build quality is excellent This, and Mesa acoustic guitar amp, are the only amps I have that I didn't build Very happy to see Suhr uses the same components I do in my builds At the price point, I chose the Hombre vs building one Suhr nailed the sound! brbrThanks for posting!
Comment from : @rdfindley56

Nice looking amp brSpeaking from an industrial designer's POV, anything that comes in contact with a user or technician's hand is important business The tube socket issue seems to be a reoccurring affair with PCB amps
Comment from : @sjyardan

The tone is excellent
Comment from : @danielmargolis3210

Biased 1:30 I love amp tech humor
Comment from : @SolamenteVees

Near perfect job of addressing any potential bias right off the top That's maybe the best way to account for any possible bias And of course, it takes nothing away from the actual inspection and analysis
Comment from : @SpartanPridePod

As a 6g3 Deluxe clone builder/owner, really enjoyed your review Lyle! Yep, definitely the dirtiest little amp FEIC ever unintentionally put out, LOL! I own a ‘65 Deluxe non reverb as well These two amps are miles apart in terms of dirty vs clean
Comment from : @normanfrazier5293

Can you please explain how those tube "dampers" provide any benefit to anyone but the distributors? Thanks
Comment from : @barnyardstory

Thanks for this review I bought my Hombre back in 2020 and it's been a great amp I saw John on Tone Talk speak about what the Hombre was and had to have one I was thinking about building a 6G3 myself, but also didn't want another project that might not be sellable I am still amazed that this design left the Fender factory in the early 60s when Leo was in search of a cleaner sound It breaks up so early, which is of course, why we all want it these days :)
Comment from : @Andy_Yates

When do you take a look at Redplate
Comment from : @Stu66orn

I really enjoyed this video It was great to get a professional’s opinion on the build quality I know you don’t take requests, but the Marshall SV20 is a popular amp It’s pretty expensive while being built on a printed circuit board so it would be very interesting to hear your thoughts on it
Comment from : @bobdragich6053

Andy Marshall used high quality mil spec pcbs in his THD series of amps Many of the Supro amps I enjoy are using them as well My only gripe is those plugs connecting the different boards together Should be soldered point to point there Not hard to un-do for service I’m asking a lot but I sure wish that it had harmonic tremolo Such a tremendous effect Thanks for taking the time to go through this great amp
Comment from : @johnward3874

Lovely vid I know they're not current amps, but would love to see you do one of these on an Andy Marshall amp - perhaps a Bi Valve or similar Andy is massively pro PCB and it would be interesting to hear what you think of his build/design/quality ethos
Comment from : @AndiPicker

The 335 and Suhr wants to sing when you put them together at the right volume
Comment from : @cbarker002

🙄
Comment from : @vancenewland6549

I rather like this amp quite a bit
Comment from : @tracyc7813

Those mix or grid stopper resistors seem to be very far away from grid You don't need that GND shield trace in PCB if those resistors are as near grids as possible
Comment from : @jutukka

This series of videos is quickly becoming my favorite It's nice to get an objective view that focuses on value for money and not the typical youtube "flavor of the day" review As well as providing a great resource for techs and players alike Keep'em coming!
Comment from : @jbolt247

Please compare this amp to the Fender Brownface they currently ship
Comment from : @MrBillinchar

Love these videos on how good amps are put together! It certainly helps a noob like me avoid some costly mistakes due to the marketing bs when it comes to amps
Comment from : @ridiculouswonk2135

Definitely gets my VOTE for visual layout with red board v Green😎👍brCurved traces v straight is interesting? Looks cool 👍brThis amp is pleasing to my ear for Suhr!
Comment from : @richardlynch5632

Great video! What pickups are you running in your HSS?
Comment from : @ryantarter6951

Boy they certainly don't try to hide what they are basing the amp onif you looked quickly you might think it was a Fender I like Suhr products in generalvery well constructed and they sound great I have a guitar that has Suhr SSV pickups - fantastic pupsbrbrIndeed, people don't think about what they are saying when they complain about PCBs There is nothing inherently wrong with a PCB - the problem comes from how things are implemented on the PCB Typically the same folks complaining about PCBs in general are also those that complain about the cost of a high-end amp that is hand-wired You can't win
Comment from : @DanielBobke

Great tour of the Hombre You are correct in noting the labor costs force the manufactures to use pcb It was refreshing to see the Matchless Spitfire cling to the old school build Thanks for sharing
Comment from : @jerryking2418

At 27:16 digital hallucination!
Comment from : @kellygrant3074

Love this series! Takes the mystical part out of the brands and really shows how well or badly they put pride into their products
Comment from : @iandelfin1559

These Brown Panel amps are by far my favorite sounding amps
Comment from : @scottketterer1672

If for some weird reason I decided to buy a brand new amp rather than building one, the Hombre would be a top candidate for the price Very cool sounding amp Pretty ,too!
Comment from : @williambock1821

I wish you would a review of a Musicman HD 130 sometime
Comment from : @stephenheidelberger616

Speaking of boutique amps, is your 6V6 amp design done? Is there a waiting list?
Comment from : @acoustic61

Uncle Doug wires his repair amps with the fuse holder after the ON/OFF switch on the HOT side of the AC line Many amps come with the fuse holder inline prior to the ON/OFF switch on the HOT side of the AC line Which do you prefer and recommend I understand the logic of why Uncle Doug does that modification It keeps the fuse holder from being hot all the time Thanks for your time and consideration
Comment from : @jeffcotton2235

I was interested in this amp months ago but no stores have it near me Thanks for Hombre tour
Comment from : @70svikeplummer33

As far as the curved PCB traces go, it's worth it to point out that they're also not any more expensive to produce than angled traces, at least past the design phase
Comment from : @wbfaulk

Really enjoy these in-depth videos, looking forward to your tone-talk!
Comment from : @DavidS

Great idea Lyle Really interesting
Comment from : @BenState

At least the pots aren’t mounted on the main PCB and have their own smaller daughter boards
Comment from : @PerryCodes

LOVE this idea for a series! Thank you Lyle
Comment from : @PerryCodes

"Thick, double-sided, through-hole plated" Other than layout, you just described most of the difference between "good" PCB construction and "bad" 👍
Comment from : @cpfs936

I know nothing about pcbs but the layout and traces sure look though out compared to a standard mass production design Very interesting
Comment from : @MrT711

I highly doubt curved PCB traces make any difference in a guitar amp BTW, KiCad is becoming very popular It's open source and it's free
Comment from : @acoustic61

I can't see any screws holding the output-tube PCB to the chassis; is it held in place by through-bolting to the socket flanges, or by screws threaded into the tube-socket flanges? Or are the sockets pop-riveted to the chassis like that damned Peavey 5150? [ After watching more of the video it appears that machine screws, AKA bolts, are holding the 6V6 tube sockets and beartrap clamps to the chassis, and holding the PCB in place as well, so it appears that you would have to unsolder the connections to the tube sockets in order to remove the board; just as you did on that 5150]
Comment from : @goodun2974

Not bad looking However, I wouldn't buy a Fender type amp without a spring reverb
Comment from : @acoustic61

I hear a very dislikeable amount of distortion coming through The guitar pickups are overdriving the amp with the 1st guitar? I want the distortion from my floor pedals not from the amp, a device that I depend on for very clean tones occasionally
Comment from : @markallen381

Are the curves to avoid traces running in parallel and capacitively coupling with each other?
Comment from : @Jonathan_Doe_

I see ur to be on Tone Talk 11/4/22 @ 9:PM Tht should quite interesting , Marc & Dave are a hoot and a half I'll be there Looking forward to it
Comment from : @tomfoolery2082

Curvature of traces does not matter It is an aesthetic and at most a practical choice, as long as it has any kind of benefit in the creation of a layout The speed of a singular electron in material is so mind blowingly slow that it couldn't care less about curves Also it has close to no mass Also you can not think of a subatomic particle as a marble rolling along a track with sharp bends And also - third time's a charme - the only thing differently shaped conductors do is create differently shaped electromagnetic fields As long as we don't (accidentally) create large inductances or capacitances, we don't care about the detailed geometry of the fields in amps The PCB design doesn't do much in low frequency applications As long as it is safe and functional of course If it did something, there were obvious differences in measurements
Comment from : @hanswurst9120

I'm glad to see you are finally going to do tone talk
Comment from : @weld4beer106

I live in Memphis and own a suhr bella I’m glad to here that John makes such good amps I bought mine based on sound I’m not a tech person I was aware of John suhr reputation for quality Thank you for the reassurance of his amp making skills I am surprised that the bella isn’t a more poplar amp
Comment from : @michaelwilkins8178

Wife: Are you ever going to learn a song?brMe: I'm listening for ghost notes, swirling, cross-talk, harmonics, clarity, buzz, microphonics, noise, hum, resonance and tone I don't have time to worry about songs!
Comment from : @HandWiredAmps