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THE BEAT by Allen Parr
Guys, I am not against Bethel music But this particular song is not theologically accurate and I hope you’ll gain better skills at discerning these types of songs so you don’t sing them nor introduce them to your congregation if you are a worship leader
Comment from : THE BEAT by Allen Parr


Paul Pettit
A good word, brother Allen Stay at it! Always enjoy learning from your videos and teaching
Comment from : Paul Pettit


The babies
Ummm you never heard of the walls of Jericho?
Comment from : The babies


🧸 aure
Capitalize our Heavenly Father's name because otherwise, you are referring to a false "god" and taking His name in vain
Comment from : 🧸 aure


Arlene Adkins-Zell
Great presentation I avoid all CCM (not because it's all bad, much of it is wonderful) because chopping up verses to fit in the chorus or changing a word in favor of rhyming can alter the meaning and I don't want that stuck in my head like an ear worm
Comment from : Arlene Adkins-Zell


Alethea
I definitely hear your point, and don't disagree that there's a lot of self-focused worship creeping in to especially American Christianity But I usually think of allusions to the walls of Jericho coming down in this song They lifted up their voices when they followed God's decree and walls came down But that's just me!
Comment from : Alethea


queen Diane
I disagree with this guy The bible says death and life are in the power of the tongue Our words have power and causes things to happen good or bad I believe our words can create miracles
Comment from : queen Diane


Taylor Morgan
you ABSOLUTELY have authority and miraculous power/ability The SAME SPIRIT that raised Jesus from the dead live IN YOU Jesus said "Greater things you shall do" Jesus said "You can SAY to this mountain, be removed, and it will obey YOU" Religion will talk about the ocean, but the Kingdom will actually allow you to swim in it You weren't meant to admire the kingdom from afar, but it is WITHIN YOU
Comment from : Taylor Morgan


Steve Filkins
Praise music, as far as I am concerned, does this kind of thing It is why I rarely support it Even with discernment the actions continue in that type of church I am thankful I am in a church that sticks with hymns
Comment from : Steve Filkins


David Cardona
As a Traditional Conservative Anglican this is exactly why I don’t find this type of music fitting for worship It’s not about God it’s about the performance It’s about lights and big drums and it’s calling people into emotionality and not into submission to God Almighity
Comment from : David Cardona


Shannon L
5:20 They did this song at our church and this line is exactly where I stopped singing I won't mindlessly repeat words that I don't believe are theologically correct It reminded me so much of my "Word of Faith" days that I've had to dig my way out of We are not God We can pray and ask for miracles, but we don't create them
Comment from : Shannon L


Tess Lawv
You're absolutely right!! Without God we are NOTHING and to God be the glory, Amen ✝🙏🏼💜🌹
Comment from : Tess Lawv


Miss Mendes
Wall of jericho is what they are referring to And when I open my mouth to praise God miracles start breaking out
Comment from : Miss Mendes


Jennifer Sargent
I agree worship should be all about God, however we need to remember that FAITH is what pleases God It’s our responsibility to step out in FAITH and believe because with God ALL things are possible If we are lacking FAITH, we are missing the point of pleasing God Be blessed!
Comment from : Jennifer Sargent


Dustin Venturella
This was a complete waste of time
Comment from : Dustin Venturella


Mega gamer 5
Ok so I see where your coming from (your viewpoint) but the beginning of the song literally leads up to the chorus saying Jesus gives us authority it literally says we do these things with Jesus given authority everything in this song is biblically correct
Comment from : Mega gamer 5


Staci Y
I just said this to someone the other day They commented on a worship song I was playing, that they didn’t like My reply way kind but straight forward - “I’d rather worship to a song that’s biblically sound than something that makes me feel good” Praise God! Blessings to everyone here, in Jesus’ name ❤
Comment from : Staci Y


Ko Ko Stevens
Every since i can remember pastors have said, God doesn't change what he did for Moses, David, Abraham, Joshua etc etc he will do for you I believe that, all these ppl were sinners just like me, called, just like me brNow, when the ppl of Israel marched around the walls of Jericho snd lifted up a mighty shout, the walls came tumbling down It is biblically sound because it actually happened When I was a young women, early 1970's, i hit a perverbial wall in my career I kept trying to overcome this wall that i could not breech Was it because I was black, was it because I was female, maybe bc i was both, I dont know I went home and I did what Jesus said I should do, I knocked and I asked abd by Gods grace, after I prayed, praised and worshipped I received, the door was opened and the proverbial wall came down brbrJesus gave us the authority to heal the sick and cast out demons I dont understand what is theologically incorrect about the song verse Do you no longer believe we have the authority to do these things? I pray that our missionaries who go to places where doctors and nurses are scarce still believe they have that authority
Comment from : Ko Ko Stevens


chris rozier
You're nitpicking
Comment from : chris rozier


Blessing Mawere
I will sing this song over and over The whole of it you are trying to mess up a great song I have no point make you understand But see this you are not a mature child of God if you can’t break down walls Hope you will read about the children of Israel that broke down walls by their shouts Hope you will ever read it when paul opened his mouth and the crippled was healed
Comment from : Blessing Mawere


Jasmine Rudolph
Unfortunately I disagree Allen, when I hear those lyrics it makes me think about how God has given us the authority and how openining our mouths to call on him and speak his word is how we are able to use the authority he has given us
Comment from : Jasmine Rudolph


Daniel Stricker
What's the name of the song! I'll read the lyrics and decide for myself
Comment from : Daniel Stricker


Beauty4Ashes
I see nothing wrong with this song Life and death is in the power of the tongue I believe that if it’s in line with God’s will we can and should speak miracles into existence If it’s His will we can and should boldly confess with our mouth
Comment from : Beauty4Ashes


Nwani Jr
In most occasions you are right, but in this you are not Am not theologist nor religious person but, the lines you quoted doesn't have any issue, they still biblical My advice is that you should widen your biblical net and understanding while doing your scrutiny Thank you and continue guiding us
Comment from : Nwani Jr


Diana Palmer
I totally agree!! Wish more Christians were aware of exactly what he says
Comment from : Diana Palmer


Charina Jongejan
Oh wow I didnt see that, thanks for sharing 😮
Comment from : Charina Jongejan


Kyra K Russell
I understand the point hes making we should be careful with not allowing feelings get in the way of our Worship because they can be deceptive I hear what hes saying it isnt us that miracles are happening Its because of Him the miracles that happen and because of Him He can bring the walls down I guess if the song writer wrote when I open my mouth Lord You make walls fall and Lord You make miracles happen To bring the focus back to God where it belongs Pray for His discernment His direction and His leading In ALL things let Him guide
Comment from : Kyra K Russell


N I
Thank you for educating me I believe the old hymns are closest to God's Word 🙏
Comment from : N I


LukeAkaTheDrummer
No you shouldn’t your just to hard on things
Comment from : LukeAkaTheDrummer


Patrice Kielhorn
I agree 100!
Comment from : Patrice Kielhorn


Audrey Jones
Hey Allen I do agree that certain "lyrics" shouldn't be added into songs of praise There are many songs that I've heard, that I feel need to be revamped in one way or another Most people do sing or play songs over and over because of the way it makes them feel Well, WORSHIP is not about a feeling per say, BUT WORSHIP is the feeling or expression of reverence and adoration for a deitybrbr"the worship of God"brbrbrWorship is to help bring us closer to God
Comment from : Audrey Jones


Sharon johnson
ALL bethel and hillsong music should be avoided
Comment from : Sharon johnson


Ronele Thomas
I don't feel this is accurate I feel that the author may have just been saying that words have power and when we pray and petition God out loud he hears us and brings the desires of our hearts to fruition brLike when he says if you believe this mountain can move, it will because of your faith If you believe you are healed, you will bein His name Amen I could be wrong Just my opinion
Comment from : Ronele Thomas


noone
You are reaching my brother You are not listening to the spirit
Comment from : noone


Hope Anozie
I see nothing wrong in this song Jesus gave us the power to pray and decree a thing and it shall come to passbrMark 11:23 says "For verily I say unto you, That whosoever shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; and shall not doubt in his heart, but shall believe that those things which he saith shall come to pass; he shall have whatsoever he saith
Comment from : Hope Anozie


Scott Hart
Quit majoring on the minors bro!
Comment from : Scott Hart


Arlene Tatum
AMEN ❤❤❤
Comment from : Arlene Tatum


Urban Axell
As He is so are we in this world
Comment from : Urban Axell


Jesus Ojeda
Who cares of what you think You don't know their walk and the darkness they come from God will protect you from every device of the enemy The holy spirit will lead does who are chosen Eat your own words speaking as them Making you a Hipocryte
Comment from : Jesus Ojeda


Carol Mc
So is there any way U are allowed or can play the song, whereby, the public and hear it?
Comment from : Carol Mc


Treasure Lekitima
The question that I have and I'm not hating, is Christianity religion or relationship because I think that's where you kinda going wrong with the song , the lyrics corresponds with how we know God and how we are able to express it
Comment from : Treasure Lekitima


Michael McMorran
The problem is most of these people don't even read the Bible
Comment from : Michael McMorran


Zack Powers
Just another internet “pastor” looking for his fame We ain’t in this to get famous brother
Comment from : Zack Powers


Ginger Cameron Ford Crouch
I believe they brought the walls down In Jericho didn't they but I do believe it was by vibrations from the trumpets could have been also the whole crowd shouting and using their voices sound is and has vibrations
Comment from : Ginger Cameron Ford Crouch


Torri Nolte
I agree Half truths are still lies brI had never heard this particular song before, but there are a few others out there that have one word in them that make it a no go brbr“…You’ve never failed me YET” Yet???brbr“…RECKLESS love of God”brReckless??
Comment from : Torri Nolte


Hein Madsen-leipoldt
Hi guys I'm a classical composer and also have composed a lot of hymnals for churches when they ask me to do so, I don't take money for composing church music, I do this as for music is my way of worshipping God and through music I preach the gospel, long short, I'm an organist and play pipe organs and enjoy our beloved hymnals without the clapping of hands, I love to compose music to those who wants more than we currently singing, I've compost to one church more than 4000 hymnals or songs, call it whatever you want, but I got it right to put the whole Bible as a hymn book, from Genesis to revelations, meaning each book in the Bible is a book of hymns, God blessed me in abundance for that, this method took me 4 years to construct a hymn book paralleling the Bible, I've kept every word on its place, never removed or added a word or words, the church I've composed for excepted this new Bible hymn book and God blessed this congregation with more church buildings that opened I firmly believe that God loves mysic but he loves music when it's ment to worship and to praise him, not for making money from it,
Comment from : Hein Madsen-leipoldt


HGM Inc
You have to define the word theologically cause I think the problem is your definition If this is true, you can not said my God in a song
Comment from : HGM Inc


Dawn Moore
I’ve known the Lord for over 50 years I think that you’re being hypercritical, no offense What about Joshua & the walls of a Jericho? Joshua got his instructions from God brThe song’s lyrics…When I open my mouth…miracles come pouring out I thought of prayer When we pray to God miracles happen! I truly can’t find anything offensive in this song We will agree to disagree God bless you
Comment from : Dawn Moore


Cristina Valenzuela
You are CLEARLY interpreting this wrong
Comment from : Cristina Valenzuela


James P John
Man u can't stop what God has began 😂
Comment from : James P John


Lesli
That line you said the walls come crashing down is talking about walls that guard your heart brbrGod says our tongues can speak life or death, and our tongues are a powerful weapon brbrDon't forget Jesus spoke in parables
Comment from : Lesli


spiritfilledlife
I appreciate your take on this but let's apply good Hermeneutics, what is the context, what is the original intention of the author to its audience br1 Bethel is pentecostal brThey believe in the full power and empowerment of the Holy Spirit 2 They believe they're is only 1 God and we can't become like God the theology of name it and claim it is wrong yes, but there is scripture that tells us we a the church have authority given by him through the Holy Spirit br3 They are not saying they can do anything on their own they are saying through the power of God they have this authority brReading these lyrics it inspires me to remember who my God is, what my part is in the world and encourage me to not forget who I am and whose I am
Comment from : spiritfilledlife


Phill Harper
When the Holy Ghost came upon us we received the same power the raised Lazarus from the dead By speaking in faith, because of Jesus It’s not stating that MAN had the power, but because Jesus giving us the authority we have that power to speak in faith And the Holy Ghost will give you discernment!!
Comment from : Phill Harper


ShelleyV
I agree with you, Allen
Comment from : ShelleyV


Perktube1
The bridge didnt alert me much, but seeing some gideos about Bethel church and what they're doing, one has to wonder about the motivations in tje worship team as well
Comment from : Perktube1


Sherry Harrell
I have been in the Bethel emo years ago, just couldn’t handle it eventually, as a dawning began to take place There comes a mixing of gall, it is subtle, Bethel teaches the second part of this songbrWith subtlety , a group hypnosis I love the people of Bethel, but I came away…brthat was my experience and I am not alone
Comment from : Sherry Harrell


Louise Day
I agree with you Allen with you on this one! We must worship in spirit and truth amen
Comment from : Louise Day


Dollis Martinez
I see nothing wrong in the song In John 14-12, Jesus said clearly that the thing He have done we also can do it and morePlease go back to your bible
Comment from : Dollis Martinez


MarkIssac
Honestly I didn’t take those lyrics as that It’s all about the perception of how you receive the words you hear to be honest and how you understand them
Comment from : MarkIssac


Diana Nahabwe
This I would disagree with because all these things are in the Bible, my Jesus said greater things than these we shall do God has put us at the center of things, God could work by himself but he indeed had to get us to partner with him When God wants to bless people he sends people We are besides God in this And soo yess when I shout walls come down Sometimes it’s spiritual walls and those I didn’t know I had God has the power to break down these walls but at times he needs us to shout first
Comment from : Diana Nahabwe


Eric Carlson
Thank you for being brave enough to say what you see and not assuming everything is great because you might like the people involved Theology and the accompanying lyrics are more important than our temporary feelings We need to be very careful how we worship the living God
Comment from : Eric Carlson


CEO Owner
You’re reading into it too much “when we open our mouths miracles come out” taken out of context When we pray with people and worship yes miracles can happen, I have seen it When we open our mouths to help someone in need miracles can happen Appreciate your input but I do not believe the song is to be taken the way you are portraying God also works through us and in us to help others, pray with each other open our mouths miracles, healings happen but yes it is all from GOD❤
Comment from : CEO Owner


Craig Hamilton
None of what you are saying makes sense Miracles do start breaking out when we as Christians open our mouths Jesus gave US the authority to do miracles,signs and wonders in his name!! Seriously Its pretty simple
Comment from : Craig Hamilton


2catsplus2cats
Hey guys did treasurechrist get kicked off YouTube? Do we know?
Comment from : 2catsplus2cats


Dustin Potter
You friend need to allow the song to finish and not stop it in mid stream to justify your "theology" Jericho fell at the shout of the people we by our faith and voice are sent to tear down the strong holds of the enemy In this song the lyricist never left God's service You cut yourself off at the knees not allowing the song to "play out" Jesus was condemned by a large number of listeners when he told them they had to eat his body and drink his blood Jesus said what so ever we loose on earth is loosed in heaven and what so ever we bind on earth is bound in heaven Songs are to praise the Lord, encourage those that need lifting up in the Lord and console people in their needs and misery and struggles in life against the enemy the things you have chosen to say are only the words of men can also be the song writers testimony of God working in them you left yourself in the air without sure-footing not carrying out the thoughts of the song writer by taking the song to the end Your theology of what a song should be and it's power are well stated I do not know this song and there are questionable theologies with Bethel but you do not leave me convinced you are well based in your theological analysis of the song
Comment from : Dustin Potter


Justin Salhani
We are supposed to be conduits of gods power we need to speak
Comment from : Justin Salhani


Justin Salhani
The Bible is overflowingbrOverflowing with our speaking Speaking is the first fruit of faith
Comment from : Justin Salhani


Justin Flanagan
This is click bait There is NOTHING theologically wrong with this song at all We do have authority in Christ! The song literally says YOU are my champion! (God) And because we are connected to the Father, we have authority over satan THROUGH Jesus! And this song is CLEARLY not saying we are little God's! It's a REALLY weak argument and pretty nit picky to find something to talk about!
Comment from : Justin Flanagan


Mevartzon
Just remember that Moses, Elisha etc received the power of God and commanded everything with it and we found nowhere in the Bible that God choose this Church or that Church and you should go to but what it matters is that we should truly believe in Jesus, accept and follow him and thou shall love the Lord thy God with all thine heart, all thy soul and with all thy might The so called reformers or the reformation churches has criticised alot on other churches, i lost my power from God just because of my doubts whenever i doubt my church the devil got me and try to knock me down but i am so grateful to Jesus because of the holy spirit he comforts me i could fight back and stay faithfull to Jesus Did you know that the sinners are not please to listen or sing a gospel song I remember when i was a great sinner i hate to hear a gospel song and i used to believe that there is no God and i should enjoy my life with this world and indeed i did lot of bad, ugly things and later i got sicked every month two or three times and all my salary i spent on medicines and treatments untill i decided to accept Jesus and my disease minimised One day the pastor of our church said that anyone who needs deliverance he will pray for them and i raised my hand and he prayed for me and when i went home i feel something is changing in my heart and in my mind Later i began to pray three times a day for two months and yes finally i can sense that there is something filled in my heart and as days gone by i experienced something totally changed in me i look at the world i never see like i saw now it looks so different and there are no words to define it Now i am a good person and there is nothing which hinders me to go to churces, bible studies, prayers etc for the sake of Christ Read the Bible don't believe on these kind of persons if you don't understand pray to Jesus what you ask for good things he will give and answer your prayers Don't judge other because you can not see their hearts and God will judge you one day
Comment from : Mevartzon


Tess Helms
Yeah, when I lift my voice and shout OUT TO GOD, walls do come crashing down
Comment from : Tess Helms


Rhonda Jamison
AVOID ALL BETHEL and spawns of Bethel Period
Comment from : Rhonda Jamison


First Christian Church Clinton
We have done this song and I agree with your view on the song We've removed that part of the song because of exactly what you said and how it put focus on man and not God Thank you for you view CS
Comment from : First Christian Church Clinton


Gabriel Patxot
When I worship I only worship to Jesus king of kings and Lord of Lords every lyric is me giving thanks to Jesus for everything he does if your mind is wandering off than you aren’t giving Jesus your all Jesus overcomes everything he knows your heart and the truth
Comment from : Gabriel Patxot


TTVKyberWolf
The name of the song is Champion
Comment from : TTVKyberWolf


Rosalie Dann
Scripture tells us the power of life is in the tongue and WE are to CHOOSE LIFE Also it says 'All power is given unto you, go ye therefore into all the world and preach the gospel and lo I AM WITH YOU ALWAYS ' br" The things that I do, you will do greater" br" If you have faith as a grain of mustard seed you shall speak to this mountain AND IT SHALL BE MOVED" br" Greater is HE THAT IS IN ME than he that is in the world" br" Christ IN ME, the hope of glory" brThe miracles are not done by us but by CHRIST IN US Yes, we do know that the miracles don't always happen as we expect but miracles DO HAPPEN through God's people
Comment from : Rosalie Dann


LaShawn Edwards
No you stop…🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️
Comment from : LaShawn Edwards


Ingrids Vlogs
Jesus has given us the authority, he has given us His holy spirit It isn't in ourselves to crash down walls but it is the power of the Holy Spirit in us that gives us the ability Saying this in love, you are misleading your viewers Read the Bible, we have the authority in Christ Jesus
Comment from : Ingrids Vlogs


KennyFishbone
Heard TWO of your videos brCame for praiseyou didn't preach itbrFair well
Comment from : KennyFishbone


Heather France
Jesus sent us the Holy Spirit and through him, we do have the authority to preform miracles It's through His power You really are reaching with this
Comment from : Heather France


Lourens Maritz
I think you're a bit confused matebrThe bible is very clear about the power that resides in our words(this is both true for believers and unbelievers)brJesus explained to his deciples that when they have the faith of a mustard seed that they can tell a mountain to movebri realise these scripture are mis used sometimes but come one dudebrJesus empowering his deciples in his name is not the same as lifting them up to the same level as himselfbrbrnothing wrong with this song
Comment from : Lourens Maritz


Manny Santiago
Love this song will there literally isn't anything wrong with the lyrics but to each their own As for me, I think it's a whole stretch to call this song unbiblical
Comment from : Manny Santiago


I am Soul
🤦🏽‍♀️ Wow Creating issues out of nothing
Comment from : I am Soul


I am Soul
🤦🏽‍♀️ Wow Creating issues out of nothing
Comment from : I am Soul


MEC
Ive never heard the song, and I agree we should not think ourselves to have the same authority or power of miracle as God himself I am confused though because did not Jesus give his disciples (of the gospel) the same authority to perform miracles, cast out demons, and heal the sick, blind, mute, deaf, etc Also Jesus said if we had the Faith of a Mustard Seed we could tell that Mountain to move from here to there and it would move So wouldn't that be a miracle? Doesn't this prove God gave us the authority (by Faith in his power) to perform miracles as well?
Comment from : MEC


Josh Fifita
Your video Title already shows your motives to destroy other ministry on YouTube by criticism, May God deals with you
Comment from : Josh Fifita


Josh Fifita
That is your own opinion, the song is theological biblical
Comment from : Josh Fifita


observantfella
Worship leaders should be anointed preachers if is also a sermon
Comment from : observantfella



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